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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]That's something I would say if my 14 yo was with me too![/quote]

Really? Lying is more acceptable to you than responsibly and moderately imbibing?[/quote]

There is no acceptable amount that is healthy.  But if he said that then drinkers would get upset.[/quote]

I don’t see where I said drinking was healthy. But responsible, moderate drinking can be part of a healthy life, just as eating a steak or a bowl of ice cream can be. You don’t need to be abstinent to be healthy. This black or white thinking is so off-putting and frankly childish. It’s how I thought when I was 8.[/quote]

It isn't childish because it is correct.  There is [b]nothing good that you get from drinking alcohol. [/b] And I honestly, 
What do you care what I think?  If you read the latest studies alcohol is responsible for six different cancers.    But. Go ahead and drink.  I don't care if you rot your brain or liver.  As long as you don't drink and drive it is your life.

No one knows what I think about alcohol but while I don't push you to stop alcoholics will push you to drink or call you names.  Like you pp.  Maybe you are the immature one. Eh?

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I don't drink much, i.e., 3 glasses a year and I totally disagree with the bolded.  It is a social lubricant.  People with healthy social lives live longer.  This has been proven over and over and over.  Alcohol is a part of the culture in MANY of the societieswith the longest life spans.  As PP said, living in a black and white world is childish.  Alcohol is very much grey world.  Too much is bad, we know that.  A little can be very healthy.[/quote]

A social  lubricant..now I have  heard it all...lol You know it is possible to be social and not drink alcohol.  Alcohol was just proven to cause six different cancers.  If that is your idea of a good time enjoy your cancer. As far as the 'childish' comment goes it is the truth and you are like children who can't handle the knowledge that alcohol is killing you.

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For your education:  https://www.who.int/europe/news/item/04-01-2023-no-level-of-alcohol-consumption-is-safe-for-our-health  I forgot to post this for all you drinkers out there.[/quote]

This is a bullshit study for many reasons, including:

“The risk of developing cancer increases substantially the more alcohol is consumed. However, latest available data indicate that half of all alcohol-attributable cancers in the WHO European Region are caused by “light” and “moderate” alcohol consumption – less than 1.5 litres of wine or less than 3.5 litres of beer or less than 450 millilitres of spirits per week.”

Drinking 60% of a bottle of whiskey a week or 2 bottles of wine a week is *not* light drinking.  It’s at the high end of moderate drinking.

There are other significant fallacies presented in their write up, too. But the idea that anything above 0 raises your chance of cancer in a statistically significant way is just plain stupid.

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i have never met a doctor who didn't drink in moderation or who counseled cutting out alcohol altogether. 
If you actually look at cancer stats, divide it into specifically the cancers that have drinking as an attributable cause, find the % that are attributed to drinking, and consider moderate drinking then you're solving for something that is one very small part of a much more complex problem. 
We need this information for the same reason we need all information eg that any preserved food, sugar, pollution, radon, CT scans, pesticides, chemicals in some clothing and cosmetic and toiletry products, processed foods, plastics (I could go on and on) are carcinogens. But they're not saying all these things WILL give you cancer, they are saying that minimizing your exposure overall is a good mental note. The most important things are to be overall as healthy as you can be. Not to live some kind of terrible spartan lifestyle where you ingest nothing but home grown carrots and wear a hemp sack. [/quote]

Doctors can be addicted just like any other person.    Not drinking makes me happier and healthier.    Why do you care why I don't drink?[/quote]

Literally no one cares if you drink.  That’s just the chip on your shoulder, your sanctimonious attitude, and your insecurity talking.

But the idea that you’re “healthier” bc you drink 0 vs someone who drinks occasionally is ludicrous.  [/quote]

How do you know I am not healthier because I don't drink?  You can not convince me it is healthy.  Plus I do not enjoy it and it is expensive.  All negatives in my opinion.

If you are so secure in your drinking than you wouldn't really care if I didn't.  The one thing I am secure about is my non drinking.  [b]You can drink all you want or as little as you want.[/b]  It has zero impact on me.

But keep thinking I am the one with the chip on my shoulder or than you aren't the sanctimonios one.  [b]I never tell anyone my opinion about their drinking in real life.[/b]  [/quote]

Got it.  But not sanctimonious.

Drinking isn’t healthy. But small amounts of drinking and 0 drinking have an insignificant difference in overall health.  The studies that say *any* drinking is unhealthy include drinking 2 drinks per day in their cohort.  On just a calorie basis, that would be basically be like including 2 sodas a day vs someone who has 2 sodas a week and conclude they’re the same.

Saving money, not enjoying it, whatever - these aren’t health outcomes.

You made the claim that you are healthier by not drinking anything than anyone who ever drinks no matter the amount.  And that, while a commonly held belief, is false.[/quote]

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