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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Like any issue, IMO people need to do more research.

Using the calculator on military.com, an E3 with 3 years of service in the DC area with dependents is getting $71,328 annually, including their housing allowance.

[b]If they live on base [/b]then the housing allowance goes away but they are essentially living for free in base housing. They (and their dependents) get practically free health/dental/vision care, spouse gets hiring priority for U.S. government jobs, and[b] childcare is ridiculously low. 
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That's a pretty good deal for someone who (traditionally) is in their early 20s, married and may have a kid or two. [/quote]

1.   IF they live on base.   Base housing is not always available.  It never was when we needed it.
2.   Exactly how much is "ridiculously low" childcare?   Are there always openings or is there ever a waitlist?

I'm not going to look up the pay scales and do math, but I do wonder what the pay different between E4 and E5 would be if they did give E4 and below the signifant raise.   In general, there is a big difference in responsiblity/leadership between E4 and E5...and time in service too.  It depends on the branch, MOS, etc. but in many cases someone will pick up E5 around the end of their first enlistment/start of the second enlistment.   With the new enlistment, and the added responsibilities, E5 SHOULD be a big pay jump from E4.[/quote]

Spouse gets hiring priority for govt. Jobs? That's news to me... - spouse[/quote]

NEWS FLASH FOR YOU: [url]https://help.usajobs.gov/working-in-government/unique-hiring-paths/military-spouses[/url]
[url]https://www.militaryspouse.com/career/military-spouse-preference-for-federal-jobs/[/url]

Also see OCONUS priority: [url]https://help.usajobs.gov/working-in-government/unique-hiring-paths/family-of-overseas-employees[/url]

Also see EO by Biden [url]https://www.stripes.com/theaters/us/2023-06-09/military-spouses-employment-veterans-caregivers-10378478.html[/url]
And directive by Obama First Lady in 2011 [url]https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/joiningforces/about[/url]
First Lady Michelle Obama delivers remarks during a Joining Forces initiative employment announcement for veterans and military spouses, in the East Room of the White House, April 30, 2013. Stage participants included, from left, Dr. Jill Biden, Vice President Joe Biden and President Barack Obama. (Official White House Photo by Chuck Kennedy)

Two years ago, President Obama announced a challenge to the private sector to hire or train 100,000 unemployed veterans or their spouses by the end of 2013.

Today, President Obama, First Lady Michelle Obama, Vice President Biden, and Dr. Jill Biden all participated in a Joining Forces Employment event at the White House.

The First Lady announced that America’s businesses nearly tripled the goal set by President Obama and did so eight months early. The private sector has already hired or trained 290,000 veterans and military spouses.

The First Lady also announced that American companies have committed to hire or train another 435,000 veterans and military spouses over the next five years.

For example:

BNSF Railroad committed to hire 5,000 veterans and military spouses in the next five years.
UPS committed to hire 25,000 in the next five years. 
Home Depot committed to hire 55,000 in the next five years.
McDonald’s committed to hire 100,000 in the next three years.
Walmart committed to hiring any veteran that served honorably the year after they separate from the service.
Deloitte will double its veteran hiring over the next three years.
USAA pledged that 30% of its new hires will be a veteran or military spouse. 
The Blackstone Group challenged each of the 50,000 managers at its affiliated businesses to hire at least one veteran. 
AT&T committed to creating an online military talent exchange.
The International Franchising Association has helped more than 4,300 veterans own their own business since 2011.
The U.S Chamber of Commerce just held its 400th hiring fair since last March for veterans.[/quote]

Thanks for posting information from 2013.

Eleven years ago.

It sure helps the Military families in 2024 who
are paying out of pocket for housing.

The lower enlisted Military members Biden 
strongly opposes paying more just so they can afford rent to house themselves and their families.

During a catastrophic recruiting crisis.[/quote]

Military spousal preference is alive and well on USA JOBS in 2024. Private companies also have veterans and military spouse job fairs frequently. 
I was also directing comments about how no administration actually tries to help military families per the 2011/2013 links which is how a lot of this started. If the issue is housing then the BAH needs to be increased, not total pay. [/quote]

Bush launches drive to boost military morale, starting with pay hike

President Bush
Bush reviews troops Monday at Fort Stewart, Georgia, where he promised $1.4 billion in additional military pay raises.	 
February 12, 2001
Web posted at: 5:38 p.m. EST (2238 GMT)

FORT STEWART, Georgia (CNN) -- President Bush, speaking before a full U.S. infantry division Monday, promised a fiscal 2002 Defense Department budget that would help boost military morale through pay hikes and infrastructure improvements.

Standing atop a reviewing stand on the Fort Stewart parade ground, Bush said his military budget for the next fiscal year would include "$5.7 billion in new spending for the people in our military." Of that, he said, $1.4 billion would be earmarked for a pay hike over and above the raises already locked into the federal budget.

Billions more, the president said, would be set aside for renewed training and for upgrades to buildings and barracks, many of which have been woefully neglected.

Of the $5.7 billion Bush mentioned, however, only the $1.4 billion for raises and upgrades to military housing represents actual new spending.

Congress approved the rest during the Clinton administration, $3.9 billion for health benefits and $400 million for housing projects. And $400 million of the pay increase is the final installment of a previously approved raise.

"The problems from low pay to poor housing reach across our military," Bush said. "It is ungrateful, unwise, and it is unacceptable. We owe you and your families a decent quality of life. We owe you training and equipment to do your jobs. And, when we put you in harm's way, we owe you a clear mission with clear goals."

Monday was a day of firsts for the president. Bush enjoyed his first flight on Air Force One, accompanied by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. He also participated in his first military review, observing troops of the 3rd Infantry Division and the 48th Brigade of the Georgia National Guard.

https://www.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/02/12/bush.military.02/[/quote]

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