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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Many posters make valid points but the level of ignorance is shocking. Clearly most can’t differentiate between countries accepting refugees where it is a deliberate decision which involves setting targets or quotas (eg Germany taking 1 million Syrians), planned migration which may not may not include people from particular countries (eg Canada, Australia), and illegal migration which is incredibly difficult to stop.

Where it is planned, there are levers that can control it and public pushback can alter government policy. For example, Canada’s admission of huge numbers including many from the Punjabi region. Australia is also cutting back on legal permanent migration and the housing crisis is causing pushback against the 800,000 international students admitted each year.

But illegal immigration is incredibly difficult to control. And it is much harder in the EU than here where there is largely just one land border with Mexico to worry about. The EU has to deal with the entire Mediterranean Sea and entry over land borders in the east. No wall could protect those. The US largely has some 600 million people in central and South America to worry about. Europe has 1.5 billion in Africa plus those in the Middle East and Asia. So any war or climate-related disaster can result in a huge movement of people.

This idea of Europe having open borders to the world is ridiculous. Why do you think the EU has given $1 billion in aid to Lebanon? To stop it becoming a new route. [b]Why do you think the EU funds the Libyan coastguard? To try to stop boats. I’m sure they would love to hear your brilliant ideas.[/b] [/quote]

To not remove a stable government in Libya would have been an obvious answer if time machines were available. [/quote]

Well, unintended consequences and all that. Many things might have been done differently or not at all in the Middle East if people had realised how it would play out. [/quote]

Like the weapons of mass destruction lie, the consequences of the invasion of Iraq, many saw this coming. Many chose to ignore facts because it offended them in some form or fashion.

Too many immature adults these days. I suppose those are the “weak men” that will bring in “hard times”.

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