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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The entire back story is completely nuts. I am not sure if it was a set up or what. It is actually somewhat common for mistakes to be made and have embryos accidentally destroyed by fertility clinics (most common scenario seems to be a power failure). There are multitudes of lawsuits that ensue over them. But this case seems sketchy and there isn't much press at all about what happened. No info on the person who committed the act (man or woman, who were they, why were they in the hospital, were they ever caught), was anyone ever charged? From google it seems it happened in December 2020 and that the destroyed embryos were laying on the floor for some time before they were discovered. And if the person burned their hands, how were they not discovered? Didn't they need medical treatment? Too many weird questions IMO.[/quote] Good point. And I read that all the couples who sued had actually already had kids through IVF several years ago (these were leftover embryos). So they possibly weren’t trying to ever do IVF again. I wonder if they were tricked or somehow convinced to pursue this wrongful death lawsuit.[/quote] They probably found hardcore forced birthers. Once they had the children they wanted, they no longer cared and were willing to be used as political pawns in order to spite women’s rights. [/quote] It doesn't make sense, because this specific fertility clinic had in their contract that all of the plaintiffs signed that any embryo stored past 5 years would be destroyed, so they are ok with "murder" under those circumstances. I believe 1 of the 3 couples did not have a live birth yet from the clinic (the couple who had filed solo and eventually had their case consolidated with the other 2). Apparently to file under this Wrongful Death of a Minor act one must file suit within 6 months of the death, which is why the suits came around the same time. But I am very suspicious that some special interest group didn't convince these families to file under this act. Further, the property angle, which is a separate argument, that the frozen embryos were property and not "unborn children" has not be settled, it was remanded back to the lower court. The arguments go in a certain order: 1) these embryos qualify as unborn children and therefore are included in the act, 2) if you claim that they aren't children because they are stored outside of a womb that would be a violation of the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment because you're discriminating based on womb and non womb, 3) if they aren't considered children, they are property and damages should be established for that. The Alabama Supreme Court held that because they quickly decided #1 is true, that the court doesn't need to make any findings for any of the other arguments, case remanded and closed.[/quote]
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