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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Student was never going to Brown or Georgetown. Or GW due to cost. Parents were limiting attendance to instate Virginia schools. Just being sneaky about it. [/quote] Wrong. Brown’s average admit GPA is 3.9 and 4.3 for weighted. Yale and Princeton cite 3.9 as their average incoming GPA. It’s the crazy publics—-MoCO with their 5.0 scale and some Nova schools with unlimited AP courses (which the kids then can’t score a 4 or 5 at the end of the year on the exam). [/quote] What am I missing? You are conflating weighted with unweighted grades. The average weighted grade at an Ivy is not a 3.9.[/quote] And it's not above a 4.3 either!! That's my point. If you have an unweighted 4.0 with a minimum of 6-8 AP courses--you are more than fine for the top 10 schools. At UVA a kid like that would be cutoff, even with high scores because of the serious grade inflation in VA public schools ([b]and multiple chances to retake exams and bring grades up-[/b]-not realistic) and the need to be a grind and take 12-15 AP courses even when you can't pass the AP exams for them. That's the kind of student that ends up there. [/quote] NP. FCPS certainly has some funky grading policies post-covid, but the impact of their policies on high acheiving students, the kind who would get into UVA, IMO is negligible. Unless the policy has changed since last year, retake grades max out at an 80%, even if a kid's score is 100%. Kids with high GPAs aren't typically the ones getting 80% on assessments and then pulling As in the classes. Also grade inflation is not the same thing as grade weighting. Just because you hear a student has a 4.3 GPA, that isn't inflation per se, that's weighting. In FCPS, to get into UVA, you have to be amongst the strongest students in your school. At Langley HS last year that GPA hovered around a 4.5. That's no different than local privates who might grade on a 4.0 scale. UVA also wants kids to take the most rigorous course load, which does lead to kids cramming in APs in FCPS. Which sucks. [/quote] Correct on the retake policy, it’s impossible to get an A on that exam retake. It’s designed to take a failing grade and turn it into a merely lousy one. An 80 under the FCPS grading rubric is a B- I think people applying to UVA or other highly selective schools should not be concerned about too many wildly inflated B minuses and C pluses floating around out there.[/quote] Not true. At my FCPS high school, kids are able to retake up to a an A.[/quote] Thank you for being honest. It’s the same way at MCP. And frankly, I think that these colleges and universities are catching on and Virginia and Maryland are not the only states that have this practice of endless retakes. Illinois has it also. But no midterm exams, no final exams endless retakes, no penalty for not being at school, when you’re looking at high GPA’s from schools like this and then high GPA is from other institutions that don’t have this practice. I’m wondering if maybe the schools aren’t catching on.[/quote] There are no midterms or finals? Or am I misreading that? I do think all of that is unusual, as many school districts are still pretty traditional. That said, I’m not sure you’ll be penalized. Just don’t let colleges know 😉 [/quote] DP: my MCPS kid must be unlucky. He is taking 4 AP classes and there is a midterm in each class. One teacher doesn’t allow retakes (this is his second year taking a class with this teacher). She is also known for grade deflation. The other three allow retakes but you can’t earn a grade higher than a B. He is a junior and seems to get the teachers that don’t accept late assignments after the close dates (7-10 days) and limit retakes to a few assignments a quarter. He complains that his friends are in easier sections and their parents allow them to switch classes or drop down a level. But I think it is good for him. Do colleges know that the grading policies are all over the place in MCPS, even within the same high schools? Probably not.[/quote]
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