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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You guys are getting suckered in by this fake post? Wow. [/quote] This was my first reaction too. My second is how bizarre it is that when this type of story is told from the perspective of the woman about a man who is completely trashed out of his mind drunk doing something he cannot remember doing (while she tells him no but then “gives up” in her words and just “let’s him”) then he is the one who is responsible? How about the idea that she could have gotten up and poured cold water on him? Also if the circumstances were that SHE had been the drunk one and had consented to sex in her drunken state and then regretted it the next day, this same DCUM crowd would be telling her that that’s rape too bc she wasn’t in any frame of mind to consent! Sounds to me like DH is described as being waaaaay too drunk to respond rationally to her weak protests if he doesn’t even remember the incident the next day. Also if I’m wrong and the post wasn’t a troll to begin with then yes it definitely sucks that this happened. But no I don’t think drunk husband is a rapist. And I also think he clearly needs to never drink again. [/quote] If a guy (guy 1) had a drunk guy (guy 2) at a bar pushing him around a bit and guy 1 calm said stop touching him and “I don’t want to fight” - no one would say it was guy 1’s fault if guy 2 then punched him. No one would excuse guy 2 because he as drunk. No one would say guy 1 should have escalated and fought when the pushing started to prevent being punched. It is 100% guy 2s fault. He punched someone that didn’t want to be punch and clearly said don’t touch me. Why is rape different?? Why is the expectation of the victim different? Why are you supposed to fight like hell and risk getting even more hurt than trying to minimize the violence you’re experiencing?[/quote] Part of what’s different here is that, if we keep to your analogy, the guys have been consensually punching one another for years, so it’s not crazy for one of them to think this is just like last week’s punching session. [/quote] No - if two guys enthusiastically box for fun every day and one says “hey man, I’m exhausted and don’t feel up to practicing today” over and over and over we would not say it’s totally understandable for the other guy to still clock him[/quote] At most dojos, people bow in before they spar. They explicitly consent. Consent is important when you're engaged in risky activity that can bring harm to another person. [/quote]
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