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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP again. We don't have access to Naviance/SCOIR data yet. Assuming that HYPSM's are generally super top (close to 4.0 kids) and folks with solid academics and legacy/donor and/or URM type status? If so, is it best for DC to just forget about HYPSM?[/quote]

Would not waste time with HYPSM. MIT is not happening. And without a significant hook, neither is HYPS.

But the stats are good enough for anywhere else. Make sure those ECs also demonstrate leadership. Sounds like she is more inclined to go to a university rather than a LAC. Spend spring break visiting campuses to get a better sense of fit and what she might like. Maybe go South - Duke, Vanderbilt, WashU. Or to the Midwest - Northwestern, Chicago, Michigan, Notre Dame. Schools in PA - Penn - and NY - Columbia, NYU - can be done over weekends. I think schools in NE like Dartmouth and Cornell should only be visited in winter. The April visits are very deceptive.

It does tend to be advantageous to apply ED. But only do so to a school where you really want to go. Often it just clicks when you visit. And look at where this year's seniors are getting in. That will give you sense of patterns and possibilities. [/quote]

Op here. Thanks. This is the kind of straightforward (blunt!) advice I needed.  [/quote]

Sorry - more bad news.. my DD at a big 3 had a similar profile to your daughter and was rejected early from a second tier Ivy and we were hooked. Also FORGET Duke or Brown.  Unless your child is hooked no one is getting in and even then not a guarantee.[/quote]

Wow - it’s rough out there. Hooked at second tier Ivy w those stats and rejected? Yikes [/quote]

If you're surprised, you haven't been paying attention. [/quote]

I knew it was rough for unhooked kids. But I guess I mistakenly thought was easier for the hooked kids - as all the ivy admits at our big 3 seem to be hooked.[/quote]

It is easier for the hooked kids.

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