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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Sometimes in this life you just don't get what you want. I understand that for people experiencing infertility, the lack of a child is like a gaping chest wound, but that doesn't make it right to exploit others for your personal benefit. Having a child is not actually a human right. [/quote]
You would be the first to change your tune if it happens to you.[/quote]

No, not everyone who experiences infertility makes their problem other people’s problem as well.[/quote]
Easy for you to talk when you’ve effortlessly popped out your kids.[/quote]
Did you have a surrogate? Is that why youre so defensive? You feel guilty over paying a poor person to grow your child?[/quote]
Yes, I had a surrogate. And no, I don’t feel guilty. [/quote]

Uh huh. That’s why you’re so defensive and insecure in your choice.[/quote]

I never had a surrogate and easily popped out kids. So, you can’t accuse me of feeling desperate or defensive about it. I support it wholeheartedly.

I think it’s a miracle of medical science and humanity that doctors can take a little egg, a tiny sperm and create an embryo in a Petri dish to then implant in a willing surrogate. It’s amazing that the surrogate’s body doesn’t reject the foreign dna and that a baby can grow.

I am delighted for the infertile women (and their husbands if they have them) who can now have the babies they dreamed about. I’m thrilled that gay men are no longer relegated to be uncles or doggie daddies and can have a family and be loved as a parent like everyone else.

I do not think paid surrogacy is immoral, appalling or bad in any way. I am sure that things can go wrong, but for me the good outweighs the potential bad.

To the rabid anti surrogacy posters, I have this to say: there is  no argument you can make that will persuade me to change my views on the subject.  My opinion isn’t relevant to you, I get it, but yours is unwarranted on an infertility board where people are seeking support in achieving the families THEY want. It’s not about you.

Can’t you all leave this board and get together and form some sort of private anti surrogacy one? You can email each other back and forth about the evils of surrogacy, and equate it to slavery until the cows come home.

But can’t you just get lost from this infertility support group? You’re insensitive and misguided to say the least.

Get lost![/quote]

You sound like the people who were rabidly defending international adoption about ten years ago even though by then it had been proven extensively and with enormous amounts of evidence that the practice was corrupt, exploitative, and in many instances literally a baby-stealing operation. We knew for years that the practice was immoral and unethical and yet it took many years for it to be as restrictive as it is now, and even now there are still problems. Why? Because of people like you who so favor wealthy people in the West that they’re willing to literally excuse stealing babies. And yes, people like you tried to shut down conversations on infertility boards when people started asking for referrals to adoption agencies in Guatemala or China or Ethiopia. I remember that too, these self-appointed defenders of the infertile who would rush in when people said that international adoption was unethical.

I will never understand people like you. I will never understand someone who elevates the desire of people of wealthy people in the west to have children so highly that any and all ethical issues are to be swept aside and discussion shut down.

In any event, even if you want to close your eyes and pretend the horrific abuses rampant in the surrogacy industry aren’t there, this conversation will come up anyhow for practical reasons related to OPs question: the practice is being increasingly shut down around the world because of those abuses. Therefore even if OP wants to close her eyes to the abuses, she will practically have to deal with them because her options are increasingly limited. [/quote]

You are the definition of a TROLL! The OP asked for personal experiences with foreign surrogacy. She didn’t ask about your opinion on its ethics.

Did you have a surrogate? Were you a surrogate? If not, can’t you take your personal opinion and GET LOST!!![/quote]

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