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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My Favorites:  Labradors, German Shepherds, and Dachshunds

Don’t like:  Goldendoodles, Yorkies, and Poodles[/quote]

Favorite: GS, Beagles, Yorkies, Bichon, Cavalier types. Most big dogs.

Dislike: Anything drooly, anything that sheds or poodles/poodle mixes. [/quote]

Also, most pits are good - it is the owners of some dogs (big and small) that are awful and irresponsible. [/quote]

So are you saying that pitts have such awful, irresponsible owners that mauling/killing is reasonable "misbehavior" from a dog?

I seriously doubt that these parents were so awful, they trained their pitts to kill their own children 
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/tennessee-mom-in-hospital-after-trying-to-save-her-two-young-children-from-fatal-family-dog-mauling/

That the owners of this dog trained it to kill children?
https://people.com/florida-boy-mauled-death-pit-bull-mix-7560578

Or that the grandma trained this dog to kill her grandson?
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/dog-kills-2-year-old-virginia-boy-in-maryland

If I were to be an "awful, irresponsible owner", and decide to stop training my dog for so long she decides to go on a rampage, she's likely to jump on the table and steal food, rummage through the trash, bark for way too long at random people that walk by my house, and chew my kids' toys. No matter how much I ignore her, or let her stop respecting boundaries, or neglect training her, she will not kill or maul people. I would never do that, but if I did she'd be horrible to live with, but she is not a killer. I don't have to train her to not maul people, just like those other owners did not have to train their pitts to kill their children. It is normal for untrained dogs to jump, bark, steal food, chase cars, chew toys, dig holes, etc... It is not normal for untrained dogs to kill/maim people, no matter how awful or irresponsible the owners are. 
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You'll never get a good faith response to this, though the stats don't lie. You'll get some BS about how a Golden Retriever can and will also rip 3 toddlers to shred and eat their corpses despite this happening...never. [/quote]

And  you won't be honest either.  People misread dogs signs all the time.   They say " they gave no warning sign" but they don't know them.   Children under 10 are the most vulnerable.
Parents let their kids get away with mistreating animals...some dogs are more forgiving than others.  But then thats on the owner for not training the kids, not keeping the dog safe.  Or chosing the wrong dog.
At our block party two big kids were trying to ride their dog..I told them to stop.

Again, since "pit bull" mixes have alot of breeds what makes you so sure that you can blame the "pit" and not the other working dog breeds for the attack?  [/quote]

I don't care of the owners missed 100s of subtle "signs" from their dogs, you should not have to be a professional animal behaviorist to own a pet. If I missed behavior signals, or even chose to ignore those signals from my dog, she would eventually either retreat to her bed or she would be obnoxious. She'd steal food, she'd get over excited and jump on people, she'd refuse to respond to cues, she might even growl or bite. But she would never (and I 1000% guarantee this) maul or kill a child. She is not gamey, she has inherent bite inhibition, and ultimately she is a domestic pet from a line of domestic pets.

Dogs should also be giving a series of escalating "signals". A domestic pet should not go from lip licking, whale eyes, look aways, and yawns to mauling/killing. There is not a single parent that is telling their child to go snuggle with a growling, air snapping, hackles raised dog, let alone a dog that is biting, making contact with a person's body and releasing. By the time a dog is ready to maul and kill, they should have been giving off multiple "stay away", red zone, obvious behavior signs. We are not talking about a single bite from a stressed dog, we are talking about dogs that literally pull people apart. If pitbulls' danger signals are so subtle that people tend to misread them, and then the mauling/killing is a surprise, then these are not dogs that 99% of people should ever have in the house. [/quote]

+1 to all of this. Plus, people with dogs, including pits, do not just keep them in their homes. They take them out of the house, they walk them on the street, go to the park, to the dog park, etc. Unless you keep your dog sequestered at home, which almost no one does, you can't guarantee that they will only interact with people and other dogs who are skilled in recognizing that dog's signs and triggers.

There are so many pits and pit mixes in my neighborhood, and sometimes I even see them off leash, and it makes me so angry. I have a small child. She is extremely cautious around dogs but with a dog... you just never know. I was once attacked by a dog at someone else's house because I was in the kitchen washing dishes and the dog walked into the room, didn't recognize me, and attacked me. I didn't do anything to the dog, he was just reaction to "stranger in house." It was terrifying.

Yes, that dog's owner was to blame but trust me, when a dog is coming at you with their teeth, the fact that it's the owner's fault for failing to train, socialize, or restrain their dog properly doesn't matter. You're just scared for your life.

People should not be allowed to keep dogs as pets who are inclined to kill people. Full. Stop.[/quote]

How do you function in this world with this mentality?  Pit bulls are allowed in society!  You are just going to have to deal[/quote]
Thanks to irresponsible idiots like you.[/quote]

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