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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]Women control k-12 education and now college.[/b] They design the experience and set the expectations.  When girls do relatively worse on standardized tests, they de-emphasize standardized tests. Everything about education these days is hostile to masculine energy which is of course considered toxic. Look at the books your son has to read in English class. The college application process itself favors girls- cultivating relationships with teachers for recommendations where they divulge all their feelings and dreams, getting involved in all these silly organizations. The system is dominated by women and rigged against boys. [/quote]

Leadership positions at both k-12 and college level are overwhelmingly male.

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"Leadership" at K-12 doesn't even matter. If your kid's school has a male principal, your kid will never even see him. The teachers your kids interact with all day every day are overwhelmingly female. In short, as the PP said, women control K-12 education [i]where it matters[/i] - at the pit face - they control the experience from end to end. That female teachers have failed boys is certainly a plausible argument based on the outcome.

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My son has done great in public school with almost entirely female teachers. No one’s failed him. Expectations for behavior and academic performance begin at home. So many parents letting their boys play video games and watch YouTube for hours and hours every day and then complaining that the school system is rigged against them. Pathetic.[/quote]

Your education has failed you if you think muh anecdote means anything. Writ large, the education system has clearly failed boys. And that system is run by women.

Oh yeah, who makes the rules and sets the expectations at home? Also women. [/quote]

You are fooling yourself. Boys have almost always been educated by women.  The system is not failing boys. Rather boys are rejecting education. [/quote]

Boys are very definitely educated differently now than they were when I was a kid.

And if one accepts the (asinine and false) claim that boys are rejecting education, [b]I guess that means your conclusion is "oh well let's give up on boys then"? [/b]One could note that over the past decades, whenever girls are "underrepresented" in any educational area (most notably STEM) there is a huge push to fix this and to encourage girls to study the subject. But when boys fall behind, the reaction from women is shrug, "oh well, what can you do."

Disgusting.[/quote]

No, exactly opposite.  You made a  wrong assumption! Perhaps I didn’t string my argument together coherently….we absolutely do need to fix what’s going on with boys, and we need to make adjustments to public education. I suggest we look to private schools as a model bc they’re doing an excellent job educating boys.  Public school classrooms are big, noisy and have no rules. We should give them lots of room to goof off and horse around outside of class, but inside the teachers need to hold them accountable, and create an environment where it’s ok to be smart. Someone upthread suggested school is oriented toward females, with the implication being that if we relax the classroom boys will thrive.  Earlier I pointed out the classroom environment has been loosened considerably, but boy performance has only gotten worse.

Why are they seemingly not interested? I think for social reasons. Outside of private school environments, there is not social cache to being smart.  At my child’s public school the smart boys are almost entirely kids of immigrants! Which is another interesting dynamic [/quote]

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This!  Volunteer in any public high school class and you will see that teachers spend 90% of their time on the boys in the class.  There is no discipline or expectations.  The boys (not all) control the whole classroom environment.  The girls (for the most part) sit quietly and do their best to do what they're told.  It starts at home.  Parents aren't teaching their boys the importance of education and respect.  Boys these days play video games and watch porn all day and could care less about anything else.[/quote]

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