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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I teach AP Social Studies courses, including AP Govt. Several years ago, the Collegeboard put out a statement that they do not recommend that 9th grade students take AP courses. However, I hate to admit this, but when my kid goes to HS next year I will insist that he enroll in and many APs offered at each grade level, which including 9th. He is a smart but not overly diligent student and I think it’s good to be in the advanced courses whenever possible. Better cohort, better teachers, GPA boost, better curriculum, etc.[/quote]

That was many years ago, before College Board remembered that they like money, and started inventing lots of new APs for 9th 
grade and non-university-level courses.

https://blog.collegeboard.org/popular-ap-courses-grade

What's your plan if your non-overly-diligent student can't keep up with the curriculum and gets a B or C in the AP class instead of an A in honors? [/quote]

My neighbors hired a tutors for their 9th grader who couldn’t keep up in APUSH and honors Alg 2.  Odd to me the parents that push their kids into advanced classes they can’t handle.    [/quote]

Having a tutor does not necessarily mean that the content is too hard.  Sometimes the teaching style is not a match for the student, or they just need personal attention that they can't get in a 2500 person school with 31 students in class. [/quote]

Yes it does, unless you are dealing with a LD.  Honors and AP by their very nature are meant to be quicker or more in depth(likely both) and require more independent work to master the material.  If you constantly need a tutor you are outside of your current capability.  It doesn’t mean that will be true for every subject or forever, but it does mean that for right now.[/quote]

Who cares if a kid needs a tutor to master the material? The point of school is to learn. Knowledge and ability are not fixed. There's no prize for breezing through a class. [/quote]

Because the majority of students and families can not afford tutors.

Just like they can’t afford to retake standardized tests 5-6 times until they get a better number.

Just like most can’t afford college counselors, tons of college applications, and the ability to visit colleges.

Do you not see how this is an issue?

It’s not a level playing field. If your kid can’t do it with just the teacher teaching him and needs a $70/hr tutor to baby step it for them, it’s an unfair advantage and your kid wasn’t ready for the class but still pulled out a good grade because he was spoon fed while others weren’t. [/quote]

Life is not fair. Meritocracy is a myth. The point of school is to learn, not to view other people’s kids as competitors. [/quote]

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