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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What schools are accepting a high percentage of the population that used to feed the Ivy League back in the 90s? UMC, private prep-school or top suburban public, high SAT/ACT scores[/quote] So much has changed over the past 30 years. But what hasn't been mentioned much is what students want to major in these days. In the 90s, there were tons of bright kids majoring in subjects like English, History, and Political Science who went on to have successful careers. That's not the case anymore. The smart kids today tend to want to study biology, engineering, computer science, economics, IT and other more difficult majors. 30 years ago they may have applied to Ivies, but these days schools like Rice, Harvey Mudd, Georgia Tech, CMU, Michigan, and Berkeley - not to mention MIT, Stanford, and CalTech - are getting the best and brightest. For students that are not quite as STEM focused, schools such as Vanderbilt, Duke, UCLA, Northwestern, and Georgetown are all getting very smart kids. Also, given the cost of college these days, there are many really smart students in the honors programs at their state flagship schools. Many of those public schools are better than the Ivies anyway in the STEM majors. It's a completely different landscape out there. As for the SLACs, I'm sure Williams, Amherst, Bowdoin, Pomona and a few others will continue to attract smart kids. But given the demographics of the US - the number of 18 year olds will steadily decline in the years ahead - and given the STEMy inclination of students today, I suspect SLACs below the top ten will soon have a hard time attracting bright kids. [/quote] Gatech, Mich, Berkeley, and UCLA are not getting the smartest kids. You can look at the test scores to clearly see that. [/quote] What test scores do you speak of in terms of Berkeley and UCLA since standardized tests are no longer required. The same goes for Caltech for the past few years. [/quote]
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