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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]I believe in every word of the Bible but I also believe it’s not the whole story. [/b]I also believe in science which too doesn’t answer everything. I don’t think we are meant to know everything in this life. The “days” in the first chapter of Genesis could have been hundreds of millions billions of years long because ultimately time is relative. The part when satan fell was left out. Look up the gap theory.[/quote] We know it's not the "whole story" because it's a book written by men. And rewritten. And translated. And translated again. And again. It's a centuries-old game of telephone. Remember Luke 18:25? "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." Except the Aramaic words for "camel" and "rope" are the same. So the actual saying should be ""It is easier for a rope to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." But we like the camel visual, so we kept it. How many other mistakes were introduced in translation? And what about the books that never made it into the current bible? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_Books_of_the_Bible_and_the_Forgotten_Books_of_Eden You can embrace your bible and your faith, but you can't say it's the truth. [/quote] I will embrace my Bible and my faith, and I absolutely can say that I believe it’s the truth. And you can believe what you want too! Obviously you read at least some of it too (referencing a verse, or maybe it’s the only one you know to make your point?) and came to your own conclusion. Good for you and I will not judge you or look for holes in what you choose to believe. We have free will. We are able to review all the information available to us today and make our own conclusions! God bless America!![/quote] Hi! Scientists [i]want[/i] you to think critically and look for holes in evolution. That’s what allows us as a civilization to learn and improve our understanding. The theory of creation is so much more robust now than it was when originally formulated. So please, go ahead and look for holes and judge. It’s good for us. But please don’t take it as an insult when we do the same for biblical creationism. It attempts to explain things and our natural inclination is to poke at it in order to understand it. That’s what we do. And if we conclude that biblical creationism is a fable, please don’t be offended. It’s what our way of thinking results in for any theory that doesn’t stand up to questioning. We can’t [i]not[/i] do that since it goes against the ethical code scientists generally have. [/quote] Hi! You must have missed the part where I said I believe in science (evolution) AND the Bible. And that I believe God created science. And there are holes in every theory. The bible nor evolution has the entire picture, because we aren’t meant to know everything in this life. We are mere humans in the year 2023. We know more than humans in the past, and less than humans in the future as there is more to be discovered. But we will NEVER know everything about Earth or where we “we came from” in this lifetime. Feel free to disagree, and I promise you I will not be offended by what you conclude. I believe what you quoted was me responding to someone else who was offended by what I concluded. [/quote] PP. I didn’t miss that, I caught that you had posted that you believe in both science and the Bible and you wouldn’t be judgmental or try to poke holes in science. I wanted to get across the idea that while I and other scientists appreciate that and hear you, we won’t reciprocate. Our worldview requires that we poke holes in things and that when we find enough holes, we get judgmental about them. So when we poke holes in any religion’s creation story we end up concluding that it’s disproven and therefore unworthy of belief. It’s fine to enjoy these stories as stories. But not fine to believe that they accurately describe nature. (I don’t consider indecipherable metaphors as being an accurate description. If you can’t figure it out until you reach the knowledge some other way - always true as far as I’m aware - then it’s not a useful tool. It’s like astrology. Vague enough to fit what we look for, but not real.)[/quote]
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