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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Some of the comments are amusing. People really, greatly, hugely, exaggerate the ability of a mere Ivy degree to get you a great job. An Ivy degree can make recruiters and hiring managers look more closely at your resume but that's it. There are plenty of Ivy grads who get nowhere. There's no quotas set aside for Ivy grads at premier investment firms and IB isn't what it was 20 years ago either. Yes, the bright kids go on to great things but they proactively made it happen rather than waiting for it to happen. [b]The "networking" is nothing like what some people on here might want to believe. It barely exists[/b]. If anything, it's better at UVA than Columbia. [/quote]

Do you have any data to back this up?[/quote]

This is directly my experience, as a lower middle class Ivy grad. In fact I think there is very little class mingling at an Ivy except for dating and maybe sports (I am not an athlete so don’t know —- it may be exceptional skill not just team membership that gives you an in?). From what I’ve seen most people are using their parents snd elite high school network (deeper relationships with shared history) and don’t need to interact with college network. [/quote]

Most of the "Ivy networking" people dream of is more a function of the class of the individual than the school. A wealthy kid from NYC whose father is a connected figure in banking is the one who has "networking" access, not the run of mill Ivy student from an anonymous family. That's why a similar kid from a similar family but who went to, say, Colgate, still ends up in the same position as the Ivy peer. And all the Ivies have their quota of rich kids from connected families, whether Hollywood producers, famous DC journalists, NYC billionaires, etc, but they live unto themselves and it's a different reality for them than it is for the rest of the student body.

For the non connected kids, it's those who play sports, typically lacrosse or football, or in certain fraternities who can overcome this barrier. The sports teams or fraternities can have tightly knit networking post graduation and are intense experiences during the Ivy years where you live and spend most of your time with team mates. Which is why quite a few working class kids recruited to play sports at the Ivies end up on Wall Street. Especially lacrosse as it's a sport that recruits both rich and working class kids and has them in close proximity all the time. The working class kids learn from word of mouth and watching their richer teammates and the richer teammates often do proactively help in the networking.

The idea that there is this extended and entrenched pool of alums eager to hire grads from the same school at any time is a bit laughable. But even [b]for the unconnected, a great value of the Ivy environment is simply being around many bright and energetic kids and learning from watching them make decisions re careers or internships or which classes leads to better careers or what their parents do and so forth.  That continual exposure can be a great benefit. If you're smart enough to take advantage of it. [/b]But you have to do something about it, sitting back and waiting for something to happen to you ain't going to get you anywhere. [/quote]

BOOM!!!!!! This is it!!!
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