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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Wondering.. why the MAP cut off is 80th percentile but the ela and math assessment scores need to be a 5 to meet the criteria? Meaning you gave to score 💯 on the assessments.. weird.[/quote]

It’s a good thing because many students test differently and many more  are above 80%. The assessments really separate the kids. It’s pretty easy to do and you don’t need the behavior assessments if your child hit all academic indicators (5/5 on assessments, high dibels and map).

I don’t even know why they have behavioral checklists they should just do academic (Increase map criteria to 95% and all GT students have to get 5/5 on assessments). [/quote]

The behavior checklist is actually a critical part of identifying GT students vs just academically advance students.  Often GT persons exhibit different behaviors and emotional regulation that doesn’t align with the rest of their profile. They also can have poor academic scores but really high test scores which may indicate that they are bored in class.  Can you imagine if you’re a 7yr that can do HS math but you have to sit still and pay attention while kids learn addition?

Most of what schools do is just identify the academically advance kids (including the gifted) but little is actually done to engage gifted students.

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What are on behavior checklists? My special need kid has IEP for behavior problem. My child will be 2nd grader in the fall. Do they give out GT notification letter in 2nd grade 4th quarter? I will have my kid's private neuropsychoical testing results in the fall (that includes IQ test), should I share that with the school IEP team? Would that be helpful for GT or ELA/Math placement later? [/quote]

If they hit the cutoffs for all 4 academic items they don't need any behavior checklists. Otherwise they need at least 3 academic and 1 behavioral but the behavioral one could come room the parent input form.

Again, my issue is that I think it's silly to combine reading and math for this because... that's not how it works in real life, and secondarily, I find the DIBELS assessment kind of silly, but it also seems like for 2nd graders this doesn't matter for much... I assume my kid will still get "math enrichment" (which is really very minimal) given that she scores 99th percentile on the math MAP.[/quote]

Also, since I realize I didn't answer you... yes, the notification is 4th quarter of 2nd grade, but if you meet some of the indicators but not all, you get rescreened in grades 3, 5, 7 and considered for enrichment and acceleration at your local school. I don’t think you can get them to include other criteria (like an IQ test), but you can ask. I think the GT designation gets used for CES? We're not really interested in moving to a different school, so for us, the only real enrichment/acceleration is Compacted Math starting in 4th grade. Which is a separate process and doesn't include reading scores.[/quote]

GT designation is not used for CES or accelerated Math ("compacted").  For CES, some of the same measures are used (e.g., MAP scores), but the cutoffs are different (including the FARMS rate adjustments), and the other criteria change (e.g., grades & reading levels instead of curricular assessment scores).  I don't think they've publicized the accelerated Math recommendation criteria this year, but, in the past, schools have been allowed to change the recommended list that central provides, based on what they know about each student; that could include knowing of a GT designation, but that very probably is ignored.[/quote]

GT designation might be used for CM per se [b]but the cut off for enrichment and/or acceleration is 80th percentile which means if your child was at 80th percentile or above in either math or reading they will be eligible for cm or elc despite not having met the gifted criteria.[/b] But the gifted designation is important for getting enrichment or acceleration. I am the PP whose DC did not meet gifted criteria in 2nd grade due to a missing map rf. As a result he was not getting reading enrichment in 3rd and was placed in the lowest reading group. But his 3rd grade mapr was 97th percentile and he was eventually moved to an appropriate reading group.[/quote]
This is not accurate.  ELC and CM have different criteria for placement from GT designation, and that criteria is not an 80th percentile cutoff.  Schools have latitude in placement into those curricula, but they begin based on MCPS-provided guidance. ELC was to have been offered (where available -- still not all schools will have it) to anyone eligible for the CES pool.  The CM criteria have not been made public yet for this year's cycle, but have been more restrictive than 80th MAP-M percentile in the past.

That said, if you have a link to the criteria, please post it.  Otherwise, I'd suggest you ask for clarification from AEI.[/quote]

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