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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Trial begins on Tues., April 25.  Trump, apparently, doesn't plan to show up.  If I were on the jury, irrespective of what jury instructions the judge gives. Not showing up is an automatic guilty.

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The person who let the criminal off guilty on the one jury I’ve served on also felt that he knew better than the judge. Let’s hope that the jury members just listen to the evidence. There’s probably [b]scads of proof[/b] that he’s guilty. [/quote]

From E Jean Carroll?  Surely you jest.  
From an incident that occurred in 1995 or 96 - she can't remember exactly when. 
Sure.  There MUST have been cameras in the store.  Surely they have video.  [/quote]
Again, one of the problems of people gorging on propaganda vs reading actual news outlets is that you don’t know anything.

“Trump now faces the immediate prospect of a face-to-face courtroom battle with a woman he described as a “nut job” who “enjoyed” being sexually assaulted. Carroll had filed separate defamation and assault lawsuits against him based on the claim that he raped her in her dressing room at the Fifth Avenue department store Bergdorf Goodman in the mid-1990s. With some of the libel allegations still under appellate review, Carroll’s assault complaint is now set for trial.” https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/04/trump-e-jean-carroll-suit-sexual-assault-kaplan.html

“But when the pair entered the changing rooms, Carroll said under oath, Trump pushed her against the wall, twice bumping her head.
“I was so shocked that I didn’t speak,” she said. “What I did was I laughed.”

Carroll said Trump pulled down her tights and sexually assaulted her. The incident lasted a “very short time”, she said, adding that she never got the impression Trump wanted to hurt her.
“But he had no concern for me,” Carroll said. “I was just there.”
The writer said she later described the incident to a friend.
“She told me I had been raped,” Carroll said, adding that the thought had not occurred to her.” https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/dec/21/writer-e-jean-carroll-rape-donald-trump-deposition

You hear this story and think it’s nothing. I hear this story and it sounds very much like the two stories of rape that friends have shared with me. You mock it because you don’t believe rape is real, that women don’t get to say no. If they were in a position to be raped, it was their own fault and it was probably consensual. There’s plenty of evidence. And unfortunately, plenty of women have similar stories.[/quote]

Given Carroll's history, it would not surprise me at all that she could fabricate a story that is believable to some.  
I don't believe there was even an encounter, not to mention a sexual assault.  I think this woman is bonkers and is seeking attention.  [/quote]

Now do Trump, “given his history.” Lots to work with that has been documented. “Grab em by the pussy.” Stormy Daniels. Karen McDougal. 26 women who have accused him of sexual misconduct. Multiple affair partners.

Here’s a list so you can renew your memory of them all!

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-melania-stor...-marriages-timeline-2018-3?amp

Looking forward to hearing what you think he’s capable of. Forgot all of his long history of lying and cheating in his business and political life but you get the picture. Pretty shady all around, wouldn’t you agree?[/quote]

Interesting that none of these people accused him of this prior to his run for president.  
It will be interesting to see what "evidence" she has.  After nearly 30 years.  
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 :lol:

Starting with his ex wife Ivana who accused him of violently raping her in 1989, you’re wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations[/quote]

And, she recanted her accusation.  You kind of forgot that part.....

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Do you remember the mob tactics Trump tried to use to get Stormy Daniels to shut up? You think she went ahead and published that story in a book and that she just… made it up? [/quote]

Stormy Daniels sued and ended up having to pay Trump, on top of having her lawyer steal her money.[/quote]
Ordered to do so by a judge nominated by W and excusing Trump’s ridiculous hyperbole as free speech. Doesn’t change that he did in fact have sex with her ( that she didn’t want) and then paid her for her silence. [/quote]

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