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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Honestly, I know so many beyond brilliant kids getting shut out, this is all starting to get meaningless to me.

My first thought when I hear someone got into a school like this in 2023 is what, arbitrary institutional priority/sob story/connection do you have?

My siblings and I have all of our degrees from the schools mentioned on this thread. I have little hope that the same will be true for my kids/nieces/nephews, despite stellar profiles. They will probably end up at state schools or lesser known privates and will hopefully thrive and do great things. [/quote]

So true. I look back on what it took for me to get into an elite school and there's no way I'd get in today.
My son works so hard and there's zero chance of getting into an Ivy or little Ivy. I'm not saying it's owed to him but it's sad that the process has become so arbitrary. Perfect grades, SAT's and activities seem meaningless. These kids kill themselves and in the end, have little to show for it.

I keep hearing people value colleges less and less but admissions stats aren't backing that up.
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The process is not arbitrary at all. Instead, elite schools operate pursuant to a fairly clear set of rules where the most privileged continue to enjoy advantages, just not as many as they used to; URMs get bonus points (or their equivalent) based on race or ethnicity; and unhooked White and Asian kids effectively get points deducted because those elite or once-elite schools have decided those kids don’t need and won’t get the boost that a degree from one of those schools might be expected to provide.

It is what it is.  Kids should excel for the sake of excelling, or for preparing them for the next stage of their lives, not because it will assure them of an admission to a particular school.  The Black girl who founds a new Black Student Union at her school may well end up at Harvard; the Asian boy who aces every exam may end up at UMCP or VT; and one can reasonably hope and expect they’ll both go on to have successful, productive lives.  [/quote]

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