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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It’s ironic how those who always said d it’s a moral/mental failing to be fat are now faced with a physiological treatment/cure refuse to acknowledge that indicates it’s primarily a physiological/genetic predisposition.[/quote]

It isn’t moral. But it is discipline.  No one absolutely has to overeat unless they take drugs[/quote]

Their natural brain chemistry is the “drug” [/quote]
 
It isn’t fentanyl.  No one is going through DTs if they skip McDonalds or stop at one scoop of ice cream.
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It’s actually quite east to maintain obesity on brown rice, broccoli, and grilled chicken. You clearly know nothing about it which is why you default to lazy tropes. [/quote]

Ok, but you can’t GET obese on this [b]plus not overeating[/b] [/quote]

Well yes but people who are disposed to obesity are disposed to overeating whatever it is that they are eating. My obese sister will eat the entire serving bowl of roasted broccoli when she’s at my house. And she’s been that way since she was a kid. It’s not McDonald’s, it’s not ice cream, it’s something in her biology. [/quote]

Maybe it is in HER biology. That doesn't explain the ever increasing obesity rate. [/quote]

Considering both parents are slim, and she’s part of a global trend, I am thinking there’s something going on with biology on a mass scale. [/quote]

Exactly. Couldn't possibly be lifestyle related.[/quote]

You’re creating a false dichotomy. I completely believe that increased weight is due to increased calorie consumption. But people’s calorie consumption is mostly a product of their biology and “calorie compensation,” I.e. eating what your biology is urging you to eat. It’s not that it isn’t “lifestyle” or a consequence of calorie consumption. It’s that this isn’t a moral failing, it isn’t ice cream, it isn’t McDonald’s, it isn’t laziness. It’s something changed in people’s biological urges on a mass scale. [/quote]

Biology hasn’t changed.  Humans have always craved high calorie foods.  We just never had the unfettered access to them like we do now.  So yes it is lifestyle related if you are choosing to buy and eat those foods and to overindulge.  There are other options.  Yes it is a choice to continue to overeat and overindulge year after year and 10 lbs after 10 Lbs after 10 lbs, until you find yourself 100 lbs overweight then say oh sh*t, I need to do something different [/quote]

We have had unfettered access much longer than we have had obesity on the rise. I don’t know why it’s so important for you to believe that it’s because people are choosing to eat garbage, that you refuse to internalize the data. [/quote]

I see what people buy in stores, eat in restaurants, order at take, cook in their homes.  It is huge portions of garbage.  I don’t get why you need to tiptoe around this.  It is a choice to eat that way.  Majority of people that are obese got that way from overeating eating and/or eating garbage foods for years and years. Weight accumulates over time, giving people ample time and opportunity to change what and how much they are eating before they get obese.  But people generally chose not to care or put in the work or discipline until it becomes a big issue[/quote]

Hmm that’s weird. Are you poor? Because the people I live around shop at Whole Foods and eat balanced meals full of fresh produce. [/quote]

NP. I think that the PP you are responding to is the very weird and obsessed stalker who continually monitors the Facebook pictures and shopping habits of her fat friends who are doctors. That person is definitely unbalanced and spends an enormous amount of time stalking her acquaintances (who seem to have much better lives than she does). I would ignore her. She’s nuts. [/quote]

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