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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I like small, sweet natured, old dogs. They are few and far between. I am a nature lover but I feel that cats and dogs are not good for the environment.[/quote]

Why are animals not good for the environment?[/quote]

Cats kill lots of birds, squirrels, bunnies, etc, but those are animals that basically have no other natural predator.[/quote]Birds, squirrels, and bunnies have plenty of other predators.  Hawks, owls, fox, other birds...[/quote]

You must not have ever owned an outdoor cat. They are far more ruthless and efficient killing machines than those other predators.[/quote]I disagree.  The house cat is a hobbiest killer.  They don't have to kill to eat.  They go on killing sprees, then give it a rest for long periods.  No way is a cat a better hunter/killer than, for example, an owl who must hunt in order to survive.  Same for those others I mentioned.

I've had nothing but outdoor cats.  I have two now.  Trust me, I know all about it.  Nothing they kill is in any danger of going extinct around here.  There will always be plenty of: mice, voles, small birds, bats, bunnies, frogs, and chipmunks.  None of those animals live very long anyway.  If the cat doesn't get it, another predator will, or it will soon die in any case.  Yet, they thrive.[/quote]

I didn’t say outdoor cats were going to make squirrels and birds extinct, idiot. It is precisely because cats kill for fun rather than to eat that they are more damaging to the local environment than owls, foxes, etc.[/quote]

But cats have contributed to the extinction of many, many species of birds…[/quote]Yes, I've read the wildly exaggerated. highly speculative claims with crazy projections about the amount of killing attributable to cats.  Only on an island with an over-population of feral cats has any bird species been wiped out.  I have no such concerns where I live.  I've seen what they kill and they remain abundant.  [/quote]

You haven't read any of the scientific studies about it, so much is obvious.

Fascinated by the idea that it's no big deal for cats to be rapacious killers of birds, squirrels, rabbits etc. because the cats aren't killing ALL the birds, squirrels, and rabbits or something.  :roll: [/quote]

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