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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I wonder how many men accused of sexual assault at Stanford received an email threatening to withhold their diploma?  I would be shocked if it were any.  Certainly if a woman decides not to file a complaint, there is no discipline.

Meanwhile, she spills coffee. He doesn’t file a complaint. And Stanford still goes for the nuclear option.  That’s an absurd over reaction.  Did they learn nothing from Brock Turner?[/quote]

I’m so furious. I was part of a similar incident at Dartmouth. The deans tried to push me into the campus disciplinary system and were pissed when I went to the Hanover police and asked to press charges. I was repeatedly asked by an administrator responsible for my access to course registration and on-campus job recruiting to drop the charges because it would be “better”  to deal with it on campus. For them.

In the end, I stayed on campus during a break to testify in court. Unfortunately the prosecutor accepted a plea deal the day before. The incident- in which I had done nothing- ultimately affected my recruiting and my life after graduation.

Rest in peace, Katie Meyer. I hate what they did to her and respect her so much- anyone who doesn’t understand the power an institution has over its students in this kind of scenario is ignorant and naive. I wish they hadn’t cornered her like this.[/quote]

How is this remotely similar?  You were the victim, Katie was alleged to be the assailant.[/quote]

The point is that universities should NOT be allowed to handle these situations.

The real problem is that the original sexual which was reported on campus was ignored by the university, and none of this might have happened if the university had properly addressed the sexual assault! Instead, Stanford, Dartmouth, and a host of other universities have broken extralegal disciplinary processes that do nothing but serve the university and its PR. Imagine if the original assailant had been punished? Instead he’s walking free and a girl who stood up for her friend was dragged into a convoluted, opaque system of punishment.[/quote]

Adults don’t “stand up for their friends” by committing assault (yes, that’s what it is) and deliberately burning someone with a hot liquid. No. Sorry.[/quote]

This could only be posted by a man, because I have known multiple adult women in college and grad school who, facing inaction by a university, threw a beer, a plate of dining hall food, trash, etc. at the assailant of their friend. Sometimes the only option left to show in public that friends will stand up for their victimized friend is a petty and stupid but very public act- like the coffee thing. And if you knew anything about Stanford biking culture, the layout of campus, and the fact that most athletes know each other at least by face,  this would seem so much less “shocking” to you. [/quote]

[b]Yes, this is a college or high school girl way of going after a guy who treated your friend like crap, including sexually assaulting her.[/b]  However, hot coffee is a lot more dangerous than a beer or pizza although there is no mention of severe burns anywhere and if they happened people would know.  That said, Stanford screwed this up royally.  There is a way to talk to a student about the likely punishment.  Stanford was the one that found itself facing the statute of limitations.  A drunk driver at my college drunk drove and killed a girl her freshman year, he went to jail for it.  And when he got out he was allowed to return to school and finish his degree.  His presence traumatized my close friend that was also in the car accident but walked away.  He got his degree.  The “victim” here didn’t press charges and there is no indication of serious injury.  The idea that she could lose her degree over this first offense is ludicrous.[/quote]

Wait, what? No just no. [/quote]

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