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Is there any way that people can post here without you trying to tear them down? It's specifically a thread for lapsed Catholics. Start your own thread for what did you parents do to help you with your religion and get off this one. [/quote]

I’m not “tearing down” anyone. I simply object to people blaming the Church and its doctrines for their own choices to “lapse” in their Catholic practice. It seems you would prefer an echo chamber.[/quote]

In my experience as an old Catholic coot, it's more common to lapse due to "people issues" than doctrinal ones.  (There are exceptions, of course).

Keep in mind that Jesus had both a "cleansing the Temple" mode and a "woman caught in adultery" mode.  We should, too.  Sometimes people may need a good kick in the pants, it's true, but other times they need a hug. Administering the former when they need the latter will drive them away from Jesus and His Church, not bring them closer.

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The issue with the woman caught in adultery was that she was going to be killed and so it wasn't a correct atonement not to mention who knows what those people did themselves. He didn't say adultery is ok. Just that stoning was a bit much for it.
The issue with the temple was that he told them they needed to leave the church space. No one got killed. He merely didn't like that bad behavior was taking place on church ground and got angry at them. That seemed a suitable response to people knowingly behaving badly at a sacred space. Just go somewhere else. He didn't stop them.

If Jesus can cleanse the outside of the temple, why can't other people want to cleanse the inside of the temple?[/quote]

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