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Is there any way that people can post here without you trying to tear them down? It's specifically a thread for lapsed Catholics. Start your own thread for what did you parents do to help you with your religion and get off this one. [/quote]

I’m not “tearing down” anyone. I simply object to people blaming the Church and its doctrines for their own choices to “lapse” in their Catholic practice. It seems you would prefer an echo chamber.[/quote]

In my experience as an old Catholic coot, it's more common to lapse due to "people issues" than doctrinal ones.  (There are exceptions, of course).

Keep in mind that Jesus had both a "cleansing the Temple" mode and a "woman caught in adultery" mode.  We should, too.  Sometimes people may need a good kick in the pants, it's true, but other times they need a hug. Administering the former when they need the latter will drive them away from Jesus and His Church, not bring them closer.

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These are superb observations. They embody precisely the “accompaniment” Pope Francis writes about of meeting people where they are and helping them to a better life and a greater appreciation of religious truth. It is a shame (even a scandal) that at least in some places it’s not easy to find somebody who will deal charitably with questions and challenges. One of the best people I ever knew was turned away when she wanted to become Catholic, by a self-described “pastoral” priest who simply didn’t want to be bothered trying to sort out her marital issues. At the same time, it can be tough to make people feel welcome to keep coming while they work out their issues when what they really want is to have the Church abolish for their convenience what it believes is divine dogma supplemented by thousands of years of debate, analysis and prayer by brilliant minds and holy souls. [/quote]

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