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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So my kids went private (two different graduation years) to ivies below HYP. At our top private,[b] Chicago Northwestern etc. was for kids who didn’t think they could make Ivy but wanted a decent rank.[/b] They didn’t think they could even get Dartmouth, Brown, or Cornell. So they might have EDed 1 Cornell or Dartmouth say but ED2ed Chicago. Of the ones that ED1ed northwestern, they did so because they saw top of class applying to ivies and knew they would lose out. Don’t get me wrong great schools but most I think would take any Ivy out of our area due to East Coast bias. Duke is more competitive over Brown, Cornell, and Dartmouth. [/quote] Ditto. At the top DC privates, Chicago is not for the top 10% of the class. These schools sen 10% of the class to Chicago, in addition to the 20% to the Ivies. NCS is another example. 10% last year to Chicago; in addition to the Ivy admits. [/quote] I hope you are correct but I think the admissions scene has tightened. My "top" kid at a DC private was told Northwestern, Duke and Vandy were as much of a reach as any Ivy. Same with Amherst, Williams etc. Same with Chicago unless you are ED. He is looking at top schools but less interested in ranking and more interested in the characteristics he is seeking (major, quality of opportunities, vibe of student body, size, location). Some Ivies match perfectly, others don't at all. So it certainly doesn't feel like a shoo-in because many schools are not good fits and getting into the ones that are seems tough. Even the safeties could go wrong. You make it seem easy and I feel like that won't be the case, though I wish it were.[/quote] As a parent of younger children following this thread who went to college a little over a decade ago (so not up to speed on what is happening with admissions right now) why is it so much harder now?[/quote] Very quick response: application numbers are up by the tens of thousands vs pre-pandemic. Some attribute to test optional (kids who normally would have been deterred by testing requirement are now submitting without scores). Other note applications are simply up due to population growth and kids being more savvy and applying to more places. [b] Kids now typically apply to 10+ colleges[/b] leading to below 10% at a lot of schools. Should also note this is roughly happening at top 100 schools. Regional universities and smaller schools are not universally seeing such applicant growth.[/quote] Also, the Common App has significantly contributed to this problem.[/quote] Problem for whom?[/quote]
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