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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Not to mention top SLACs not accounted for. How can you overlook schools like Amherst, Williams, Pomona, etc. Tiers are better. I am a tierist. [/quote] To be fair most rankings don’t mix the LACs and research universities. What would be your tiers?[/quote] I think most of the mainstream ones other than US News do combine e.g. Forbes and WSJ. Here are the tiers discussed on this thread and other threads: 1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale 1B) Penn, Caltech, Columbia, Duke 2A) Vanderbilt, Rice, Dartmouth, Brown, UChicago, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Pomona, Northwestern 2B) UMich, Johns Hopkins, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna 3A) UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury 3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford [/quote] You all are crazy. What makes Penn better than Brown, or Amherst better than Swarthmore or Wellesley? UF better than UT or even with GT? The problem is insiting that you can quantify the unquantifiable. Do you rank paintings or favorite colors? Or tier them? Best spouses? Can't you just accept that there are a lot of goood and very different schools out there.[/quote] Tier makes much more sense than trying to decipher between 25 and 26. That is why they are grouped. [/quote] It is the difference between a Mayan pyramid and an Egyptian pyramid. Either way you are implying there is a hierarchy where non exists.[/quote] A tier definitely exists. Harvard is not the same tier as Salsbury State. But the tier is much less precise than trying to distinguish between 25 and 26. [b]Everyone knows what the top schools are[/b]. But can't decide or care about if one is 25 or 26. [/quote] It bascially shows in the combination of 'Student Stats + Acceptance Rate + Yeild Rate'. Not sure what you are saying but your formula only accounts for input not output. Outcomes from schools is not factored in versus in a reputational tier they are. Some schools with an 8 percent acceptance rate may not be as good as schools with a 12 percent acceptance rate. Variety of factors. Also, acceptance rate is out of US News calculation. [/quote][/quote]
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