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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]Please. Nobody here ever said
- the Greeks don’t get credit, or 
- the idea is “uniquely” Judeo-Christian. [/quote]

Great, then we agree it's not uniquely judeo christian.  So why say the country was founded on judeo christian values and not the Greeks or any otehrs that may have espoused it?

[quote]You made that up. What several of us ARE saying is that (1) nobody has a patent on ideas, and also that (2) the same ideas can arise at different times and in different contexts. [/quote]

No, you are saying it is a judeo christian value and the country was founded on it.  You said nothing about "different times and contexts".  Because that renders the "founded on judeo christian values" claim moot.  The bible talks a lot about food, too.  Is food a judeo christian concept?  ("That's ridiculous" you are saying to yourself, and I agree 100%);

[quote]Separation of church and state IS a Christian idea, even if it’s not exclusively Christian. Perhaps if you drew a Venn diagram that would help. [/quote]

The idea of "Separation of church and state IS a Christian idea" when the article linked in the very post of this thread shows a majority supporting an elimination of that very distinction is just not a supportable point.

[quote]Also, where is your answer to the point about Thomas Jefferson’s modified New Testament? By your own logic, who “won” that one?[/quote]

You mean the one where the deist Thomas Jefferson made his own bible which removes all miracles and claims of Jesus' divinity?  I didn't repsond to that because it supports my point perfectly.  He was not a Christian.  He did not believe in the bible Christians believe in.  End period.[/quote]

to pp: your points serve to negate and clarify points to readers, but likely don't discourage or inform the person you're responding to at all. They love the discussion as a means to engage and to defend the faith, in their minds at least.[/quote]

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