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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The book notes 5 star UCLA's strongest programs as:

Computer Science, Engineering, English, Fine Arts, Mathematics, Performing Arts, Political Science, and Psychology.

UCLA seems like an interesting community.

Overall, this college guidebook loves the UC system with 4 UCs receiving the second highest academic rating (4.5 stars) and one (UCLA) receiving a full 5 star rating for academics.

Many seem to underestimate the quality of the University of Virginia. Univ. of Virginia is an outstanding university.

When I wrote the first two posts in this thread, I thought that there would be strong reaction to rating the academics of UC-Berkeley the same as for Boston University and the Univ. of Florida, and Boston College.

To really stir things up, I will list the SLACs that earned a 4.5 star academic rating (same as UC-Berkeley) :

Smith College, Wesleyan University, Bucknell University, Bates College, Univ. of Richmond, Scripps College, Colgate University, Colby College, Colorado College, College of the Holy Cross, Lafayette College, Union College, Vassar College, & Grinnell College.

Th three authors of the book all have earned doctorates--two PhDs and an EdD.[/quote]

The thing is, a bachelor's degree is just not a big deal. Nearly any school has adequate resources to teach bachelors level material. If a student can find engaged faculty and peers and access to  the programs that they are interested in, they can do great from anywhere. While I would never advise a kid to choose BU or UVA over Cal for a PhD program in most sciences, they can absolutely get just as good of an undergraduate education at any of these schools, and many, many others.[/quote]

Regarding the assertion that "a bachelor's degree is just not a big deal", my response is that it can be depending upon the particular school and upon the particular major.[/quote]

There are certain majors and certain schools which are "a big deal" at the undergraduate level.

My position is that if accepted to any of these schools, one should do everything within reason to attend:

Princeton, MIT, Harvard, Stanford, Yale, CalTech, Carnegie Mellon University, Harvey Mudd College, USMA at West Point, USNA at Annapolis, & the USAFA at Colorado Springs.
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LOL wtf remove Carnegie Mellon University, Harvey Mudd College, USMA at West Point, USNA at Annapolis, & the USAFA at Colorado Springs

CMU is not it exept for CS.
only handful of people want to go to the military places and lifstyle  [/quote]

It is reasonable to assume that those who apply to the service academies and are accepted want to go there as evidenced by their yield rates.

Your suggestion to remove CMU & Harvey Mudd from the list suggests that you should examine further the graduates career results from both schools.[/quote]

Carnegie Mellon University (CMU) is the top undergraduate feeder school to the top dozen or so employers in the tech industry both by total graduates placed and when such placement is adjusted for undergraduate enrollment.

Top feeders to tech industry when adjusted for undergraduate enrollment:

1) Carnegie Mellon University
2) Stanford
3) CalTech
4) Harvey Mudd
5) Columbia
6) MIT
7) Georgia Tech
8) USC
9) Rice
10) Duke
11) Princeton
12) UCal-Berkeley
13) Cornell
14) Brown
15) U Penn
16) Harvard
17) U Washington--Seattle
18) Santa Clara
19) Northwestern
20) Northeastern (Boston)
21) Swarthmore
22) Yale
23) UC-San Diego
24) Illinois
25) WashUStL
26) Johns Hopkins
27) UCLA
28) U Waterloo
29) U Chicago
30) Michigan
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What's the source?
We got this - https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-tech

1
Carnegie Mellon University
2
Columbia University
3
Stanford University
4
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
5
California Institute of Technology
6
Harvey Mudd College
7
Georgia Institute of Technology
8
University of Southern California
9
Rice University
10
Harvard University
11
Duke University
12
Cornell University
13
Northeastern University
14
University of California, Berkeley
15
University of Pennsylvania
16
Princeton University
17
Brown University
18
Santa Clara University
19
Northwestern University
20
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
21
Swarthmore College
22
University of California, San Diego
23
University of Washington
24
Yale University
25
Washington University
26
Johns Hopkins University
27
University of Chicago
28
University of California, Los Angeles
29
University of Waterloo
30
University of Michigan

BTW is there another Northeastern somewher else? why (Boston)?
CMU is top of the top for CS, but not automatic go to school for any other majors.
There is no automatic go to school for mediocre majors unless you are super rich.

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Oh Northeastern beat Berkeley on this too[/quote]

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