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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Think about all of the cars that cross over from Virginia to Maryland on the beltway during the morning and evening rush hour commutes.  Probably hundreds of cars *per minute*.  Would Virginia really force an epic logjam on the beltway so that every single female traveler could undergo a pregnancy test?  The logistics of this is mind-boggling to me.[/quote]

To repeat.  You need to read up on the Texas bounty law.  The enforcement will happen through people reporting women to the authorities.  No need for a logjam.  Just better hope no one is out to get you. [/quote]

Loose lips sink ships. Kind of like that. [/quote]

Why the hell would anyone choose to live in a red state under these conditions?[/quote]

What’s great about our country is that you can choose to live in a Blue state and others can choose to live in a Red state.  If you don’t like where you live, you can move. [/quote]

The vast majority of poor people can't afford to move. Which is why rich republicans in red states are super happy right now. [/quote]

Interesting.  I’m what you’d call a “Rich Republican” in a red state and I’m not “super happy right now” because majority of poor people can’t afford to move.  Can you provide a source for your claim that “rich republicans in red states are super happy right now” because “vast majority of poor people can’t afford to move?”  [/quote]

Are you happy that women in red states won’t be able to obtain abortions?

Do you understand that having unplanned children, having more children than you can afford, or having children at a younger age than you planned will lower earning potential for women, and make the poverty cycle continue?

If you answered yes to both question, then you get what the other PP was talking about. If you answered no to question 2, educate yourself. [/quote]

Where is this sudden surge in sympathy for the poor in red states coming from?  They are regularly mocked on this forum, and now y'all suddenly care about their lives and outcomes?  Midterms, I guess. [/quote]

You’re deflecting instead of answering the questions.

Let’s try again:

1) Are you happy that women in red states won’t be able to obtain abortions?

2) Do you understand that having unplanned children, having more children than you can afford, or having children at a younger age than you planned will lower earning potential for women, and make the poverty cycle continue? 
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Okay, I'll answer. 1) No, and 2) yes.

I am also extremely skeptical about Democrats actually being able to do anything about either 1 or 2.  And I am also not buying that Democrats would prioritize the needs of red state "pregnant people" given all the other goals they are chasing. [/quote]

This issue is just as selfishly about our daughters in the blue states is you want to look at this way.   You are not stripping away a right from millions of american women and turningthem into murderous criminals with out a long sustained fight where women will be victorious again.   We will fight for a very long time to get some respect from what is supposed to be our supreme court.[/quote]

I dont understand much of what you wrote. I will give you a tip, however.  Dont fight for "respect" from the supreme court. Come up with a clear legislative goal and work on that.

See, this is why I have no faith in the Ds to fix this in red states. [/quote]

It is easy to understand.  Put justices on the court that will uphold the right to an abortion and women will legally hold this right as they did for 50 years. (they in fact do hold this right regardless of the what any law says)

Put justices on the court that will not protect this right for women and poof......The red states deny women their rights to an abortion.

Are you even paying attention?[/quote]

Are you? Justices get nominated by Presidents. A lot of people, including women, put Trump in the Presidency; and as a result Roe got overturned. You - not some nebulous they - you, need to convince red staters to vote the way you want in the future.[/quote]

If a majority of white women in red states don't want reproductive rights, I guess we should just respect that. [/quote]

They have this right as women period.  The law not reflecting that does not mean the right does not exist or that they would ever choose to exercise it.

Just because you enslave someone does not mean they do not have the right to be free [/quote]

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