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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I had a medical abortion. The embryo heart stopped but because of other issues my body would not miscarry. I’m ever thankful that my doctor was kind and performed it before sepsis set in. People posting here know very little about the dangers of pregnancy. 
I have had 3 friends with later MC who nearly bled to death. MC can be fatal. 
Up until recently the main cause of death among women under 50 was childbirth or pregnancy complications of which there are many. 
But nothing will change the pro choice attitude. [/quote]

Yes this. It broke my heart to see abortion listed on my medical paperwork for a much wanted and desired pregnancy. But nothing was right with the pregnancy from the very first scans. I waited an agonizing 5 weeks for the heartbeat to stop. We all knew it would, it was just a matter of when. I was 11 weeks. Then my body would not give up the fetal tissue. I waited another two weeks to miscarry naturally and it would not happen. So I had a D&C. Traumatizing and the nurses didn’t help. I’d never had a general in my life and I woke up sobbing, to hear a nurse say “we’ve got a a weeper.”

What would have happened if I couldn’t get that D&C, even with a no longer viable pregnancy that had already lingered for weeks? [/quote]

I am unaware of any state law that outlaws abortion for a non-viable pregnancy or one that is to protect the health of the mother. [/quote]

Well, until Friday it was unconstitutional for such a law to exist.

[b]Texas, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Kentucky, Arkansas, and Louisiana have no exceptions for health of the mother,[/b] for rape or incest, or for a fetus with conditions incompatible with life. I am not sure what you mean by non-viable pregnancy - doesn't matter in the above states [b]unless the mother's life is in danger. [/b]

So now you are aware.

[url]https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/24/abortion-laws-by-state-roe-v-wade-00037695[/url]

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You appear to be contradicting yourself—see bolded above. [/quote]

Exceptions for the life of the mother mean nothing when there is no doctor in your state who will perform the abortion .

Life of the mother exceptions also do not cover those fetuses who are incompatible with life (t-18 or heart defects, for example) because technically the mothers life isn’t in danger.  The impact on NICUs and the trauma that will place on families who have to deliver a baby just to watch it die will be significant.  Also, what happens to prenatal care like NIPT tests, amnio, or CVS if you don’t have a choice to terminate for medical reasons?[/quote]

In many cases, NO ONE, even the doctor knows for sure that the baby isn’t compatible with life. Not every condition, or diagnosis made is automatically a death sentence.  Down’s syndrome isn’t incompatible with life. Think of all the babies born with special needs and no one knows until they are born.

Yes, having a baby with special needs takes a lot of selflessness and so parents might choose to abort instead.

Even if a baby is likely to only live hours, many people choose to carry to term out of dignity for the baby because they do believe that baby is a life. And maybe they can hold that baby for a few hours or even a few days. But that’s a very courageous that not many can make. [/quote]

Maybe it’s the opposite. It is not moral to inflict futile suffering on any being. The moral thing is whatever prevents futile suffering. So maybe it takes more courage in that situation to have an abortion.

The point is: the person who gets to make this call is the person who is pregnant. Because it is so complex, no one here has a role in that decision. [/quote]

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