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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I've posted here a little bit ago stating that a negotiated settlement, when it is reached, would be remarkably close with what was discussed in Istanbul.  And then everyone will ask themselves - why didn't we agree to this in the first instance and save everyone the death and destruction that has occurred since?  Here is now the plan from National Interest that is very close to the Istanbul tenets:

https://nationalinterest.org/feature/proposed-peace-plan-end-russo-ukrainian-war-203009[/quote]

I think you are wrong in that “everyone” will ask themselves. In ukraine this question will be illegal! One will be labeled a traitor if they dare ask it in public 
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LOL if you go down that path, then add this  - it would be grounds for summary execution to ask - why didn't we agree to Putin's clearly stated demand for no NATO presence in Ukraine more than ten years ago? If we did, we would still have Crimea and there'd be no war. [/quote]

Huh? Then there'd be no more Crimea and no more Ukraine, or rather, no more Ukrainians, only Russians in their Ukraine.[/quote]

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