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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Does Alyssa Milano talk about moral theology/Christian ethics in this video? That is what we are talking about here. [/quote] np then you shouldn't have an abortion. but, MYOB for other women and their families[/quote] Again, read the title. [/quote] What is your point pp?[/quote] DP. Your comment is totally off topic and has nothing to do with moral theology. But while we are at it, your "then you shouldn't have an abortion but MYOB for other women" could be restated back to you--"if your state allows abortion and you're happy about that, then MYOB about other states."[/quote] I believe that the right to self determination of what happens to my body cannot be legislated by any state. We fought a civil war over the idea that states can do anything they want within their borders if it violates personal liberties. [/quote] You talk about the right to what happens to your body. [b]You don have that righ[/b]t. The state did not get you pregnant. You used your right and became pregnant. [/quote] This is the key. I believe I absolutely have the right. Who has the right if not me? Do you believe the state has a right to my body? I agree the state did not get me pregnant. So why should it have any sort of say in anything?[/quote] You do have the right. You and someone else got your pregnant. The state has nothing to do with that but you want the state to fix it. [/quote] No, all humans don't want the government to interfere with bodily autonomy. The state doesn't have to "fix" anything - they just have to not take away my rights to make decisions with my doctor about my own body. [/quote] No state is interfering in bodily autonomy. You did something to your body, the state did not. Then you want the state to fix what you did to yourself. [/quote] what? stop lying. the state outlawing a medical procedure is the state doing something to my body. [/quote] Not every medical procedure is legal. Let us take a hypothetical, internal organ tatoos. Their existence is not confirmed; could be an urban myth. But it is entirely possible, if only at great risk to health and life. Would you object if a state did not permit this? It is, after all a medical procedure (also involving a tatoo artist). Do you support the Supreme Court ruling that no state may prohibit internal organ tatoos? Let us take another, real-life example, physician-assisted suicide. This is permitted by law in a number of states but is prohibited by most. Is the ability to have a physician assisted suicide a human right, one that can be found in emanations of the Constitution? Roe could well be used a precedent for a future drive to require all states to permit physician-assisted suicide, allowing a bit of variation on how sick (or not) you need to be (i.e., on demand or not), how many physicians must sign off, etc. Would you support the Supreme Court mandating physician assisted suicide, a medical procedure, in every state, or is this something voters in each state should decide?[/quote] I don’t gaf about your parade of horribles. made up speculation about other cases has nothing to do with my fundamental right to control my reproduction. [/quote]
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