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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]MAP-R 245, Asian, Girl, waiting list. MCPS intent to reduce Asian population in CES, already in Middle School magnet, later in high school Magnet, if lottery is lottery, why Asian kid in these program drop significantly. PGCPS is the future of MCPS. The good thing is the house price will drop.[/quote]

There is an easy answer for that. Because the pool is bigger. The previous system took more or less the "top" 5%. The new system is a totally random lotter among the "top" 15%. Bigger pool is going to bring a more diverse group of kids. [/quote]

That's not even true-- or we don't know it's true. (Unfortunately IMO.) Does anyone have data for the CES demographics before and after the lottery?

UMC+, white and [i]some[/i] Asian American groups are overrepresented in the top 15-25% of so-called academic achievers. So while underrepresented minorities, poorer kids, and so on show up in larger raw numbers in the top 15% than in the top 2%, there's actually not evidence that they show up in larger percentages.

That is, it may be true in MCPS that URMs (et al) only make up 10-20% of the 98th percentile +. But it may also be true that they only make up 10-20% of the 85th percentile+. So if you [i]randomly[/i] select from the 85th percentile+, you get the same result, as a percentage of total spots in the CES. I said this upthread, actually, I think.

I'm not saying I know any of this for sure. But based on what I know about standardized tests and grades, it's not unlikely to be true. Very anecdotally, our school has seen no more diversity in whom is selected for CES pre-lottery and post-lottery. School is vast majority Black and Latino and the kids who get into CES every year are heavily white with maybe a kid of color, almost always Asian or maybe biracial (any race). Even if significantly more Black/Latino and lower SES kids now qualify for the pool, basically almost all the MC/UMC+ white kids do, so if it's a random selection from that group, it's still going to skew towards the wealthier and whiter. [/quote]

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