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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]When people share stats as evidence of racial preference, either anecdotally or with aggregate data, the response is “stats aren’t everything.” When they, instead, point to softer things like leadership skills, that is dismissed too.

Schools admit to race-based decision making but when someone implies race was a factor in decision making, they are called out as racist.

Why are people who support affirmative action so unwilling to acknowledge it, and so quick to name call those who do? Living in North Dakota is an advantage too, and calling this out doesn’t mean I have prejudice or ill will towards North Dakotans. But the advantage is still real and we shouldn’t deny it.[/quote]

But that just isn’t true. A kid growing up in ND will be hard pressed to find math contests & science research going on around them. Their high school is not likely to have the culture of achievement that yields the slew of AP scores of 5 that elite schools want for STEM majors. At some high schools you just have to simply get As in your challenging, but pedagogically-sound classes to end up well-prepared enough for standardized tests. You don’t have to self-study for multiple exams. They are just very, very unlikely to have the caliber of application that a kid in Brookline or Scarsdale has. Therefore when a rural kid does, their application immediately makes eyes pop.

The 2 Hispanic kids I referenced attend an elite and exclusive private school in the metro NY area. No hardship there![/quote]

A Hispanic kid absolutely has hardship.[/quote]

All of them? No. You have a picture in your head that is wildly under inclusive.[/quote]

I am so effing sick of hearing about “hardship”.  Who has it and who doesn’t   Blah blah blah  I lost my mom at the age of 4.  My dad fell apart and put me and my siblings in foster care when I was 8.  Fast forward a few years, straight A student in high school and went to my state school for BS and MS degrees  Not ranked in the top 20 but the only place I applied.  No
One knew I was on free lunches in high school and a ward of the state court.  I kept my mouth shut and worked my way through.  Loans etc.  oh yeah.  I am Caucasian.  Now I am finding it near impossible for my kid to get into schools because the colleges have decided to give half the seats to minorities who have “ hardships”’.  [/quote]

Completely agree. You will always get in trouble assuming both hardship and privilege, simply based on race. [/quote]

Funny. But you don't get in trouble for assuming a URM is unqualified  - 
simply based on race.[/quote]

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