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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]American women have more opportunities, don't *need* a man.

Women from 3rd world countries have limited options.

I know a few women from former 3rd world countries who married American men[/quote]

So this boils down to human rights. We should all be working towards giving women options beyond pleasing some man with your body.[/quote]
sure, but until then, this is what a lot of women from 3rd world countries do.

Not that different to "mail order brides" out west in the US during the western expansion, or what the Brits or Canadians did in their former colonies.  Basically, women who had no future or options in their home country became mail ordered brides.

This is what the French did to populate Canada -- Filles du Roi -- where women were sent to Canada in the 17th century where there were a dearth of women.

The former 3rd world country where I knew some women who were mail order brides is no longer a 3rd world country.  Women there have a lot more options now.   Women are getting married much later and are choosier, and the birth rate has declined.   That society doesn't have great maternity leave or equal pay protections, so women are careful about their path.  Getting married and having kids locks you in a path more so than in the developed western world.

Today, in the US, it's harder for men to find a women who is willing to put up with his BS.  Men, particularly rich men, want women to cater to them. Hence, they look to exploit women who are desparate to escape situations where they have very little means and options. Those womend do this willingly.  Let's not make them out to be complete victims. They know what they are doing. They want a cushy life (not blaming them).  So, why not?   American women here have and do still do the same thing. But, men know that American women are less likely to put up with their BS.[/quote]

You know you keep posting these sweeping generalizations of women, men and marriage but do not back it up with any facts. I think you are just in the camp that all married women are exploited and are putting up with their DH BS? If you are so unhappy being married divorce. [/quote]
How do you gather "facts" about how American women tend to not put up with BS from their DHs?  How about the fact that the vast majority of divorces here are initiated by women?

Anecdotally, the few divorces I know in my cirlce were in fact initiated by women because..

..the man was a deadbeat, didn't really work
..the man skipped out on his wife and SN child, and cheated
..the man was very direspectful of his wife, including in front of other people

Generalizations are just that, but it doesn't come out of thin air.   YMMV

FWIW, I'm happily married to a great guy, married 20 years, but almost every divorce both my DH and I are aware of were initiated by women because the guy was an a$$.[/quote]

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