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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I feel like it’s important to differentiate unassisted vaginal delivery from forceps/vacuum delivery.  Does anyone know how instance of prolapse differs there?  I feel like this is similar to the scheduled c vs c section after labor difference in outcomes.  FWIW my birth classes didn’t spend much time on pelvic floor injuries but it was clear about the pros and cons of lots of interventions and I came away thinking c sections were WAY less scary than forceps.  And this was a “natural birth” class too!  [/quote]

Anecdotally: I'm the one who mentioned her friend group and the friends with prolapse, and as I recall none of them had forceps or vacuum deliveries. My own mom had unassisted and unmedicated vaginal births and she developed serious prolapse issues in her 70s.[/quote]

My mom had four babies vaginally, all pretty easy. Needed total reconstruction of her pelvic area/bladder in her 40s. [/quote]

PP who asked: great to know, thank you both for the info![/quote]

PP here with the friend group I referenced. FWIW, my anecdotal sense is that post-vaginal-birth prolapse is actually very common, but because the medical system and society in general does not care about the medical problems of older women, it is swept under the rug or just normalized. You see it here too: “oh, women who had c-section also get prolapse.” Well, yes, but not at the same rate, and there is also a question of severity. There is a strong desire to hide or minimize pelvic floor damage to women for deeply misogynist reasons IMO.

Natural birth advocates are as guilty of this as the gerontologists who discount the suffering of older women.  
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Thanks for sharing!  I agree with your misogyny premise tbh.  While the “natural birth” thing worked out okay for me, I get twitchy at a lot of the rhetoric because it seems really dismissive of a lot of people’s experiences and preferences.  :-/[/quote]

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