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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Many families start prepping for the TJ admissions test in early elementary school so I wouldn't be surprised at all to learn those same kids prepped early for the PSAT. [/quote]

Many schools will give free PSAT to students in 8th, 9th, 10th - so that rich and poor alike  get equal exposure to SAT.  There is no "prepping" for PSAT and it is a ridiculous notion.  I will be very surprised to learn that any kids prep early for PSAT or waste their time doing that.  :lol:  :lol:

If you are well prepared in lower grades in English and Math then you can do very well on SAT as well as PSAT. Furthermore, the English and Math in SAT is very basic. SAT Math covers only Algebra (no calc) and some questions of Geometry (no trigonometry), and most students are done with the Math part by 8th or 9th grade.  Of course, if you are a poor student of Math in lower grades and have not done anything to remedy that knowledge gap, you will continue to fare poorly in SAT.

Similarly, SAT English is a very basic type of English and they have made it even more simplified. No more obscure words and analogies of yesteryear. Now the meaning of the word is inferred from the passage.  Again, if you are a good student, you will do well. If you have knowledge gaps and you don't try and remedy it, then you will flounder.

Be an excellent student in Math and English and get a bit familiar with the format and you are gold. You cannot crack PSAT or SAT if you don't know Math or English.  Does not matter how many tests you take.  You have to take the tests, pinpoint what you don't know or understand, and go and learn that concept and content so that you can master it.  SAT measures your mastery for basic concepts in Math and English that is needed for you to do well in college and understand more complex concepts.  If you don't have the basic down, how will you do well when more advanced stuff comes?

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I disagree that SAT English is "very basic." First, it covers reading, which is tricky on the SAT, especially with old fashioned texts and vocabulary words, which a student knows or doesn't. Second, the grammar part is definitely not basic. Some concepts are easy, others are not. Throwing a "no error" in to most question and giving sentences that sound correct, makes it much harder. [/quote]

Its English that the students should be able to tackle by 10th or 11th grade.  After all, it is a  Scholastic Aptitude Test to check if you have the aptitude to do well in college.  The students will be reading college level texts in college and expected to keep up.

As an immigrant whose English is not that good, and we speak another language at home, my kid found SAT English easy and that was primarily because my kid has been reading for pleasure since he was in 4th grade. Additionally, his 9th grade  English teacher made them all read Strunk and White's "The Elements of Style" because she did not want to suffer through their poorly written and grammatically incorrect written assignments. I think that made a huge difference in his English scores. If you don't have this kind of education through your schooling, are you not  better served knowing where you are lacking and try and remedy that not only for SAT but for college and beyond?

Everything the SAT measures, your kids are supposed to have learned from K onwards.  They may not have learned it because of poor schooling, indifferent teachers or their own carelessness. Still, if  you want your kids to do well in college, most academic weaknesses should be addressed before they get there. Regardless of if the college says "Test Optional" or not. [/quote]

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