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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think it's fantastic.  Study after study after study has confirmed the high correlation between family income and parental education and SAT and ACT scores.  Generally speaking, high scores were born on third base.  It doesn't make them any smarter.  [/quote]

Have you ever heard of IQ tests? What do you think SAT and ACT measure, if not IQ? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6963451/[/quote]

That's interesting because my son with an IQ of 158 scored poorly on SAT. Likely due to ADHD and Autism but it doesn't make him any less smart. His 4.9 GPA still stands. [/quote]

SAT can't measure "slow thinker" intelligence. It only measures "quick thinker" intelligence. These are very different. Some of the most brilliant minds we have are slow thinkers, but they would do badly on the SAT.[/quote]

Which is why SAT does not correlate to intelligence and is certainly not an IQ test. [/quote]

Ugh; it is one measure of the kind of intelligence colleges care about. That there are smart people who do poorly on it does not mean that it doesn't measure intelligence and academic ability. Genius students can have terrible GPAs for a variety of reason too. And yet, that is still used as one measure of academic ability. Do you think kids who were born on third base don't also have advantages and game the system when it comes to GPA? They do. Should colleges throw out every aspect of a student's profile that can be effected by their parent's education and wealth? What would be left? Height?[/quote]

No they do not. This is why the schools are dropping them. Do you even know the history of these test? They were never an intelligence test of any kind.[/quote]

California is apparently dropping it due to a law suit.  Schools that actually target high IQ students like MIT still say they are important.  And I'll post this for the third time:

"Although the principal finding of Frey and Detterman has been established for 15 years, it bears repeating: the SAT is a good measure of intelligence [1]. Despite scientific consensus around that statement, some are remarkably resistant to accept the evidence of such an assertion. "

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6963451/[/quote]

Ok, but if that research is 15 years old, it’s not based in the current iteration of the SAT.  It was revised and made more preppable.  Not sure that research is on point any more.[/quote]

lol…more preppable.  Give it a rest.  [/quote]

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