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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The "induced demand" theory applies in the long run not short run. The question is how long it takes to reach that. For example, the ICC was opened about 10 years ago. It's still not congested. What happened to induced demand?

The other thing about it is that if the claim adding lanes makes traffic worse, then why not reduce 270 to 1 lane each way. Won't that make traffic better? We know it wont...

As for people working near their home, that's ideal, but in a 2-earner household, it's not easy for both parents to find a job near their home, and it's not easy to just pick up and move each time someone gets a new job. It's also not likely the person will hold that job for 20+ years. So, people will need to commute.

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Induced demand does not apply to HOT lanes. Because access is restricted and you have to pay to use them, it does not induce any additional demand to thr non-tolled lanes.[/quote]

Then it also won't provide any "congestion relief" to the non-tolled lanes.[/quote]
It will provide relief to the people who pay the toll. That’s why it’s a toll lane. [/quote]

Yes, and everybody else is going to be sitting in the same traffic they were sitting in before, watching affluent people pay their way into faster car trips. It's odd how the Hogan administration isn't making that clear to Maryland residents, don't you think?[/quote]
It is a exactly the idea that everyone else sits in traffic. That’s the whole point of HOT lanes. They establish a market price on lost time due to traffic.

This is a stupid game. No toll and you cry “induced demand”. Toll and you cry “not fair”. And then in another breath complain that roads are subsidized and people are not paying the full cost.[/quote]

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