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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Have any of you ever driven on this particular stretch of Rt 460?  Windsor VA is part of the well known Windsor-Wakefield-Waverly danger zone between Suffolk VA and Petersburg VA.  The speed goes down quickly from 55 to 25 with each town.  Speed traps are known.  Sometimes even the old school cruiser-hiding-behind-a-low-sign routine.

There's also a lot of tractor trailer traffic between distribution centers and access to 95/85 and the port.

It's not surprising that this happened where it did but I find it notable that it had nothing to due with speed considering the normal speed issues in this area.  [/quote]

Thank you!  This is a huge part of the story. I travel through there frequently to get to the OBX.  It’s a well known speed trap.  I see lots of soldiers in uniform drive it a lot as 460 is the “military highway” between the coast and Ft Lee so these officers should recognize the uniform.

I always thought Windsor was on the old town constable system where they have one police officer, he is the chief, and actual investigations are left to the state police.

Windsor is a well known speed trap.   The speed at one place goes illogically from 45 to 25 and I can discern no good reason for it.

I’m also a retired police officer with years in patrol, investigations, training, and supervision.  This was a bad stop.  My department also would have had someone 100 lbs over weight in a non contact position until he regains his height/weight requirement.  There was no reason to not tell the Lt. why he was being stopped.  The OC was excessive.  The overweight one over reacted because he was not confident he could physically handle the motorist if the motorist physically resisted.  The overweight one’s grip on his firearm...WTF?  Did he get arms training from a 1980’s movie?  All the gangsters used to hold them like that.   I can see no reason he demanded the motorist lie prone on the ground for a fairly routine traffic stop, especially after they saw the paper license plate.

I’m interested in how this plays out.  I intend to fly through Windsor next weekend as I think there will be no cops on duty.

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Another point to make, knowing this stretch of 460 - there is NO shoulder.  There is nowhere safe to pull over except into a parking lot or business so if it were me and the same night time scenario I too would drive on to the next lighted business.

Not sure what the LT did but I would reduce speed and put on my flashers to give the police behind me a hint so they didn't think I was evading.

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