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It depends on what you mean by "it" and in what context.

I'll go with the context of your DD getting recruited by a college.

If the "it" is wins then;

Look at it from a college perspective, what does a win or a loss really say about your DD in particular? They are looking for a player, not a team remember. No college coach has ever asked my kid what their team record is. So the short answer, as far as recruitment goes, winning or losing doesn't really matter. That said various championships can provide resume filler and they look good on the college Bio. But if you look at a variety of college roster bios from a variety of D1 schools you will see all kinds of clubs represented.

[i]Yes, they are there to scout the player. BUT, they also look at the strength of the competition. To have a stronger strength of competition, you need to win games. There is a reason why PDA, Solar, Blues, FCV, and MVSA are so heavily recruited. If you look at Large School Top D1 Bios, you will see that most played for top ECNL/DA clubs and were also successful High School players. Virginia is an exception for High School since the best girls do no participate, especially after freshman and sophomore years. [/i]

If the "it" is team rankings? 
Then the answer is absolutely never. College coaches are concerned about their program rankings and nothing more.

[i]Correct, colleges do not care about rankings BUT rankings will get you the best showcases/tournaments in front of college coaches that you did not consider exposing you to more oppurtunities.
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So what DOES matter?

Simple, can your DD play. That's it, end of story. If your DD can play then the most important thing is to be seen. Obviously high level showcases are the best way and the earliest separator. But even that is getting more democratized. Game film is more accessible and affordable than ever. Almost any kid can get film of their game and send highlights to a college coach to get some interest.

Correct. However, college coaches understand that any "highlight" film can make any kid look good BUT if the highlight film as against a well recognized club it would provide more clout.

Contrary to the constant back and forth on these boards about who the top league is I'll tell you, coaches will scout both and all. They will first make their list from kids who have shown interest in them. There is very little window shopping or unsolicited scouting. Coaches do not wonder showcase fields and decide to pull up a chair at a game and watch. If you reached out to them, provided some film and will be at the same location they will do their best to get a set of eyes on your DD. This is why they usually spend not much more than 20 minutes at a given game.

[i]True, however coaches will stop and watch top flight games. [/i]

So, knowing a coach is only going to spend 20 minutes watching your DD's game, which becomes more important, your DD's team winning the game or your DD being on the field and playing well when the coach is watching?

[i]Obviously on the field but if my DD is playing for a CCL team against an EDP team, she will be exposed for playing against mediocre competition. [/i]

You see from U13-U15 winning matters to parents a lot. But when the recruiting happens PLAYING TIME IS GOLD. Knowing that your DD will be on the field for the 20 minutes that the coach is watching is the only thing that matters. And remember, there are 18 kids on the same team hoping the same thing when their college coach comes around.

[i]IF your DD is not getting the playing time, time to move one. If your DD is starting on a playoff contending ECNL team, no worries, these players don't need to be selfish as good coaches understand the level of competition. Selfish players will be exposed anyway. [/i]

The college coaches never ask the score of the game they are watching, they never look at the results. They are only looking at their list of players and when and where they are playing so they can then watch them.

[i]No argument here. [/i]

So, you can choose to argue about this league or that league, this ranking or that ranking, the scores of last weekends scrimmages, or you can make sure your DD is the best player she can be and forget all the other nonsense. To be perfectly blunt, grow the hell up.

[i]Yes, place your kid at the club where she will get the most playing time and develop the most. As for this poster, I suggest you grow up and quit being so GD judgmental. If parents want to enjoy their DD Jeff Cup placement, winning the league, or climbing YSR rankings, let them. WTF does it matter to you? I am guessing you either have a child playing up for a less competitive team OR the season isn't going to well for you right now. A parent of a DC on a successful team (winning) would not post the types of things you are posting. [/i]

Oh, and one other thing, the first significant question a college coach will ask your DD is "how are your grades?"

[i]More important than anything posted on these boards. Not only to add to your resume, but remember, your DC is only one major injury away from any kind of help at soccer. Another thing, there really isn't anything such as a "full-ride scholarship" unless you are US National Pool. Otherwise, it's just going to be some help towards tuition. Nothing to get crazy about. Soccer is a tool to getting your DC into his/her dream college for educational purposes. Nothing more. Most kids don't make it more than a couple years of playing NCAA sports.
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