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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Coming across the JHU thread and it’s clear there are some people unfamiliar with American colleges who think Ivy League = the best. It is worth repeating that there are just as many universities NOT in the Ivy League that are just as good and just as prestigious as the Ivies.

Stanford, MIT, Chicago, Cal Tech, JHU, Northwestern, Duke

If we expand to LACS, add Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore and Pomona.

If these schools were to just start their own separate academic “league,” they would rival the Ivy League, easily.[/quote]
They might be as "good", but they are certainly not as prestigious.

Even a "Ivy" like Dartmouth, which is in reality is an above-average LAC, would be more prestigious in the minds of the wealthy and powerful than say, JHU or Chicago. Entirely due to its association with the Ivy League and schools like Harvard and Princeton. Sure, upper-middle-class educated folks might think otherwise, but they are middle-managers, not board room members.[/quote]

For the millionth time: Dartmouth is a university.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dartmouth_College

If you are uninformed about facts how can your opinion be informed?[/quote]

If it needs additional explanation, its prestige is already in question.
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Either that or the person just doesn't know what they are talking about.

Which do [i]you [/i]think is more likely?[/quote]

Let me first preface that I have no affiliation with any of the schools in the OP or with the Ivy League. I’m also not the PP who mentioned Dartmouth. I keep a close eye on higher education because I have quite a few friends in academia and working in university administration. Here’s my take...

It’s no secret that Dartmouth administration has been flailing for the last couple of decades due to its late-onset realization that it’s being left in the dust by its peers that are much more robust research universities. It’s always sort of had one foot in the “university” door and one foot in the “small liberal arts college” door, and it has caused a lot of shuffling, infighting and angst among administrators and alumni. This kind of soul-searching will not be resolved any time soon. Coupled with the college’s enduring reputation as a haven for douchey fratty types; the wider, growing trend in preferences for urban/suburban schools; and a relatively small endowment, Dartmouth is not in an enviable place. I’m not bullish on the school.[/quote]

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