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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I never thought of "goy" or "goyim" (plural form of goy) as hate speech.  However, it is a term typically used by Jews to describe non-Jews.

Every once in a while, Jews debate whether African Americans really count as "goyim."  Some Jews say they do, since African Americans usually are not Jews (although you might be surprised by how many actually are Jews, at least around here).  Some say they don't, because, like Jews, African-Americans are not part of the majority white Christian culture.

Sorry to wander off topic.

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Yes, you have jumped the shark. But just as a matter of form needing to label anyone different than you with a "those people" label smacks of objectification, stereotyping and, yes, that typically comes from bitter resentment. If not hate, perhaps jealousy. Certainly that is the origin of shiksa.

It always seemed so odd to me to be referred to as a " gentile". I actually didn't know what the term met when I was told I was one so I asked, " what is a gentile ... does it mean gentle ?"

The response was its a term for Christians. So, I said well I am not a christian. I am an atheist. The response was, "no, you are one"by virtue of ... ????

By virtue of the fact that THEY needed to put me in a group because it fit their need to classify people.[/quote]

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