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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]It sounds unlikely to you because you’ve never dealt with abusive men.

Women trying to get out of abusive relationships are in a lot of danger. It doesn’t take much imagination to think of scenarios where the abuser could get a friend to go find his wife in a shelter and use the trans-label as a cover. This is exactly what JK Rowling was talking about when she said this destroys safe spaces for women.[/quote]

[b]How exactly do you think DV shelters work? Do you think anyone can just turn up and walk in?[/b] [/quote]

I think domestic violence shelters have a lot of discretion — however, there’s already been one example where a trans woman (who sounded and presented as male) was not allowed to volunteer with rape victims because it made them feel uncomfortable. The trans woman sued and succeed in shutting down the shelter. This literally “destroyed” a safe space for women.

If you think other shelters haven’t taken notice, you are delusional. For a violent man wanting to locate his wife, the trans exception provides very easy access to formerly safe spaces.

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I would really like the PP to provide a link to that story before people just go restating her comments as fact. [/quote]

Here you go:

https://www.feministcurrent.com/2012/05/14/rape-relief-v-nixon-transphobia-and-the-value-of-women-only-space-an-interview-with-lee-lakeman/

Kimberly Nixon vs. Vancouver Rape Relief

A trans woman sued the Vancouver Rape Relief because she wasn’t allowed to volunteer directly with rape victims — she refused to settle or accept other forms of volunteering. This tied up their efforts and resources for over a decade of defending themselves and defending female-only safe spaces for battered and abused women. In 2020 they were denied funding by the city of Vancouver directly because of their stance that a female only space was critical in making battered women feel safe. 
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One more thing that’s relevant: The shelter did provide help for trans women as well as cis-women. It’s just that the vast majority of their clients were biological women. Their mission was to provide a safe space for women and they recognized (as most advocates do) that it can be very triggering and frightening to be around men immediately after a woman has been attacked by a man.

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It was blatant discrimination. The court upheld it was. If you google Kimberly Nixon she would never be mistaken for a man. It’s horrible that a rape crisis center told a transgender woman she was going to trigger rape victims. [/quote]

You don’t think there’s something wrong with a person so determined to speak to rape victims that they would sue a rape crisis center for the right to do that?  It doesn’t strike you as just a bit self-serving that a trans woman would go that route rather than, say, find a shelter that caters to trans victims of sexual violence, or start such an organization themselves?  Why put all that energy into forcing women to give you access to victimized women?   [/quote]

[b]I am sure it actually hurt quite a bit to sue a rape center but I believe this person was thinking bigger than herself and fighting blanket discrimination which does in fact benefit many people[/b]. [/quote]

Sure. I bet it benefited Kimberly Nixon.

It does not benefit the women who are survivors of male violence and no longer have a safe space to heal. Since when is it discrimination for women’s shelters to provide safety for women recovering from male violence???

At first I thought JK Rowling was ridiculous, but all the people arguing that rape victims should have to accommodate trans women who present as men are making me rethink this. Ugh! It’s an attack on the most vulnerable members of society in their most vulnerable moment (immediately after being raped.) Wow. You really want to eliminate every safe space for women???

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