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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Family friends in FCPS who have a disruptive child, severe ADHD, have spent many hours and funds on therapy yet he still hits other students and recently the teacher. He's always had issues since he was a toddler and was kicked out of preschools. I feel so bad for the family (other kids are fine)! I think he needed early intervention services but his needs were not identified as he was home with a nanny until 4 and perhaps parents were in denial thinking he would grow out of it.

He had an IEP, lots of FCPS counseling services, many warnings and suspensions, but he is now headed for a special needs school for emotionally disturbed students. Parents are devasted.[/quote]

But why are they devastated?   It's probably going to be a much better environment for their kid.  I've seen that kid in a public school.  It's really hard for them.  No kids want to eat lunch with them, play with them, or be their partner.  And that certainly doesn't help with their behavior.  I know no one wants the label of "emotionally disturbed" but FCPS was clearly not a good environment either [/quote]

You know what I don't hear here: [b]he is seeing a psychiatrist and getting medicated.[/b]

No offense to all of the people out there who think that you can just "train" a kid out of bad behaviour: this kid may actually need medication. As in if this kid has severe ADHD, he should be on ADHD meds. If he is still violent, they should consider giving them Abilify or Risperdal (antipsychotics). (Note: this is an anonymous forum, please contact medical professionals and take this with a grain of salt.) If this kid is clinically defined as ODD (Oppositional Defiant Disorder) and even with CBT: meds aren't evil if they can keep your kid from being kicked out of school.

We also have a neighbor with a kid like this and his meds changed him from being violent to being normal-- like legit normal kid overnight. Brain chemistry is funny this way. Do I think it's a panacea for ailments like this? Nope. But for parents who don't know what their kid could be like, when they do put their kids on these meds, the amount of relief on their faces is almost immediate. They just smile more.

Good luck.

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(PP) YES he is seeing a psychiatrist who is trying diff meds, so far unsuccessfully plus private therapy. Also, he sees school counselor and social worker. 4 mental health professional and few improvements. And other services from his IEP. One parent had to change to a part time job to be available to attend so many sessions and school meetings each week.[/quote]

PP, the one you bolded.

I am sorry the parents are going through this.

If he isn’t benefiting from a typical ODD treatment, he might actually be a sociopath.

I know that’s hard to hear but a lot of really smart kids are also sociopaths. There is no medication for it, if the violence isn’t being resolved normally. And the treatment for it isn’t keeping them in schools- they have to have an immersive treatment.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/06/when-your-child-is-a-psychopath/524502/

Good luck. [/quote]

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