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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why are people so convinced that healthcare drives health outcomes? Variety of factors go into health outcomes—especially factors generally outside of the healthcare system like diet, exercise and stress levels. Has anybody actually shown that access to healthcare will cause health outcomes to improve. The worst possible case would be Euro costs/access and American outcomes. [/quote] But the default cannot be that universal coverage will automatically lead to bad outcomes. I have no quibble with raising other concerns at play, but what I see -- over and over -- is that those with this viewpoint either don't know the outcomes data, or they are deliberately misstating it. Fine. Say, "yes, the survival rate for X is better in these other countries, but …" Don't say "they leave preemies to die" or "you can't get bypass surgery over 80." Make an actual, real case for your argument, dammit.[/quote]
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