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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Meh, in another news, Duke scientists exposed for massive scientific fraud...

https://m.washingtontimes.com/[/quote]

What does this have to do with Oberlin?

Are you the same poster who earlier tried to claim what Oberlin did was ok because it wasn't as bad as what happened at other colleges?

As it is, in your linked article, Duke paid out a fortune. So it looks like there's good grounds for Oberlin to pay out a fortune too! [/quote]

Meh, in another news, Catholic Church exposes for massive abuse...  $300 million in just a 12 month period.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/06/04/us/catholic-church-300-million-abuse-claims/index.html

Oberlin has always been on the right side of history. That’s the difference. 
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That may be the dumbest argument ever on DCUM, which says quite a bit.[/quote]

All the scandals you read about elsewhere are motivated by pure greed and blind ambition. When caught, everyone’s distancing by selling people down the river. That’s not what’s happening at Oberlin.  Right or wrong, Oberlin is where it’s at because it was trying to support students, especially those most marginalized in the society. You may disagree - and you maybe right - but u can’t say Oberlin’s motive is one of abuse of its students that we see all around. [/quote]

I don't know if I can fairly agree.

I saw some of the comments from Oberlin staff in various emails. They were not nice to the business. Even the writer in the link earlier in this thread criticized the college for the languages used in the emails regarding the business.

I'm not sure how this is equivalent to being on the right side of history. History doesn't have a right or wrong side. History is history. There is a reason for the old saying that the road to hell is paved with good intentions. The dean and people at Oberlin may have had good intentions in the protest and supporting the protest but it doesn't mean the protest was good. Because it was not good, the shaming of a bakery and attempts to shut it down over a modern day McCarthyism, substituting racism for communism, was not good.

And what abuse of Oberlin students are we talking about here? Is it real, or is it imaginary? Perhaps those same deans and campus staff are encouraging an environment that leads people to form the wrong assumptions about the surrounding community? How many students to to Oberlin and immediately dismiss the local town and its residents as racist or redneck or white trash without even making any efforts to get to know the town? Just wondering.

The greed we saw with the admissions scandals, which you still must acknowledge was not led by the universities themselves but by select coaches and parents, is actually more understandable because it was about money. Cash for a spot in the incoming class. No one was hurt from it. It doesn't justify it, of course. But a rich family paying tens of thousands to fake an admissions application only shows stupidity, not malicious behavior. They did not trash or ruin names and reputations of other students. But what happened at Oberlin was malicious. And people were hurt, namely a small family business. They were accused of racism and their good name systematically torn down and ripped to shreds by Oberlin staff, faculty and students. That was wrong. Very wrong. There is a huge difference.

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