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[quote=Anonymous][quote]First, the study you are talking about is unscientific BS. [/quote]

This one? This is the study I’m referring to. I’m not sure how this meets your definition of scientific bs. 
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The Coleman report is considered the definitive study on these factors. Conducted after the civil rights act of 1964 (and published 12 years after Brown) it looked comprehensively at the factors driving student achievement.

Of all the factors, school composition (racial and socioeconomic ) had the highest relationship.

Whole study: https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED012275.pdf 
Relevant summary section: 1.4 
Relevant data and how they define: 2.4 
Impacts of school composition on student achievement: section 3 
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[quote]Second, you didn't answer the question. What is the actual REASON? As in, the cause. Not the effects and the correlations and observations and your feelings about our moral obligations. [/quote]
I’ll grant you that talking about moral obligations was a late night moment of poor judgment, that allowed you and others to dismiss my basic claim.

Concentrating poverty in schools harms student achievement. 
Economic segregation, part of which comes from economic segregation in housing patterns and others in flight from schools concentrates poverty in certain schools and therefore harms student achievement.

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What is the actual REASON why black people need white people in the class? The only thing resembling an actual reason in your ramblings was a vague reference to a lack of "opportunities" if there are not enough white kids in the class. What do you mean by that, specifically?[/quote]

Lack of opportunities is (and I’m looking for the citation, but can’t put my finger on it) the fact that many high poverty schools, in their staff and family/community assumptions,  don’t even lay out the opportunities for the kids (IE, they may encourage a high performing kid to ensure she is going to Montgomery college or Maryland, rather than encouraging her to reach for a higher ranked school that she could get into, but that the student doesn’t even know about and the staff has rarely had opportunity to push for). .

To give a concrete example, I attended an event with the late Harold Levy, who was the head of the Jack Kent Cooke foundation, working with high achieving poor students. Those students often walked into their programming with the Foundation with a career goal of going to DeVry or the University of Phoenix. Those were the ones recommended to them, and the only ones they could see themselves attending. That’s what we see as a lack of opportunity.

There is one more area on the subject of lack of opportunity I’ll just touch on - which is the middle class’ role in concentrating opportunity, and supporting policies that keep opportunity in the middle class. If you’d like to see more:
Summary from the Atlantic: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/530481/
Author’s book:  
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/29502567

One of several (unfortunately research-login-needed) studies on the concept: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0895904818802106

I hope this answers your question, and helps you see why this is an issue Montgomery County needs to face head on. [/quote]

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