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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]That’s just recalculating.  It is not the same thing as using the high school’s weighting.[/quote]

Exactly. They don’t use the high school weighting. They use their own.

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[b]Well I have yet to see any student under a 4.0 get into UMCP this year on college confidential [/b]unless their weighted was above 4.0. I highly doubt the kids admitted here are smarter than these top schools with lower GPA averages. Something doesn’t add up here.

Looking at average GPA here:

UMCP 4.3

Penn 3.9
Brown 4.0
UC Berkeley 3.8
Harvard 4.1
UMich 3.8
MIT 4.1
Wisc 3.8
Notre Dame 4.0
BU 3.6
Georgetown 4.0
USC 3.7
Williams 4.0 
UVA 4.1

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If you’re using College Confidential as your data source you’re doing it wrong.[/quote]

This data may come from Common Data Sets, though, which comes directly from the colleges.  What I've seen is publics like UNC Chapel Hill may have higher GPAs than any top private.  (UNC-CH also has higher GPAs than UVA and W&M, BTW.)  This may just mean those states have grade inflation at the high school level.[/quote]

Colleges are permitted to submit GPA data in their common data set as they see fit. Some reports contain unweighted, while others have weighted, recalculated, or no GPA data at all. The UMCP average GPA is obviously weighted and is pretty worthless considering all of the MCPS kids with ridiculously inflated GPAs in the mix.[/quote]

Agree and I think that is the whole point of the issue here.  How can kids in non-weighted schools even compete.  I know kids in top college prep schools with great unweighted GPA's getting into ivy's, but getting rejected from UVA and UMCP.  That is fine for the families that can afford top private colleges.  But for a family on financial aid at Sidwell (with no AP's offered, but obvious high rigor) as a Maryland resident, may only be able to afford UMCP.  25-30% of the kids at those type of schools are on financial aid.  Where do they end up I wonder?  [/quote]

They are not using GPA to compare between schools. See WaPo look inside UMD admissions 2017. They group applications by school and compare within a school. They are well aware of the grading procedures for each school. I don't think this explains any anomalies that you are seeing.  [/quote]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/thirty-thousand-applicants-one-flagship-inside-admissions-at-u-md/2017/12/26/635026ba-dc41-11e7-a841-2066faf731ef_story.html?utm_term=.2d867103fbfa

[i]"People believe it's really formulaic," said Shannon R. Gundy, U-Md.'s director of undergraduate admissions. "That's just not true."

Rising demand from out-of-state students, foreign and domestic, drives much of the growth. Universities often seek out those students because they pay higher tuition, offsetting erosion in state funding for higher education. But in-state students also are drawn to public schools that offer a prestigious degree at a substantial discount. Those from upper-income households who qualify for little or no financial aid at private colleges often find tuition at their state flagship is a relative bargain, saving as much as $40,000 a year.

Ballinger said it would be cheaper and more efficient to screen applicants primarily on grade-point averages and test scores — which was, in fact, standard practice at UW until 2006. But he said a by-the-numbers approach would be "totally destructive." To illustrate the point, he posed a rhetorical question: Which applicant is stronger, a student with a 3.8 grade-point average or one with a 3.5?

"Most people will say it depends," Ballinger said. "And that's exactly right."

How are applicants judged?

The university lists on its website 26 factors it considers, including grades in academic subjects, SAT or ACT scores, community involvement, extracurricular activities, residency status, gender, race and ethnicity. The university says these factors are "flexibly applied," but the most important are course rigor, student performance, academic GPA and test scores. (U-Md. says it does not consider whether applicants have family who are alumni.)

The middle half of SAT scores for those admitted to the latest fall class was 1310 to 1430, and for ACT scores it was 29 to 33. That means a quarter of admitted students scored above those ranges, and a quarter scored below.

Typically, [these] readers make one of three recommendations: fall admission, spring admission or denial. A few spring admits also are wait-listed for fall. More than many selective schools, U-Md. uses spring offers to fill slots on campus that open up midyear. Nixon, associate director of undergraduate admissions, will spot-check the recommendations for consistency.

The files are then grouped by high school for a second review by admissions officers familiar with those schools and regions within the state and beyond. Finally, Gundy and her senior staff review the entire recommended admission pool before releasing priority decisions by Feb. 1. She calls this stage "shaping." Among other things, she must ensure that the university does not make too many or few offers for fall and spring, and that it strikes the right balance between in-state and out-of-state students. Overall, about 70 percent of undergraduates are from Maryland.[/i][/quote]

If you think they look a5 26 points for every applicant, you are insane. [b]Our school it was GPA and URM. That was it[/b] [/quote]

So you were sitting in the room as they discussed admissions for your school?[/quote]

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