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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]MCPS documents clearly state that seats were allocated differently, with more directed toward students assigned to lower performing MSs. For Eastern and Takoma Park, 75 seats went to non-CES kids, 25 to CES kids. Anyone who thinks that ratio makes sense based on purely objective criteria is smoking something.[/quote]

Well, it’s gotta be healthier than smoking sour grapes...[/quote]

Their post literally doesn’t add up since there are around 220 to 240 total seats at eastern and Takoma. Without a credible source iit appears they’re making up numbers to suit their narritive of choice and lend credit to unproven conspiracy theories. [/quote]

Maybe the PP is confused about numbers vs. percents.

But yes, I agree. Obviously everybody who wants to maximize their child's chances for the math/science middle school magnet program should move to the Takoma Park service area - or the Roberto Clemente service area![/quote]

Perhaps, but they post clearly stated 75 seats, not percent... but more importantly they failed to provide any type of corobating citation which means it's all just BS. [/quote]

I can try to offer some "corobating citation"
Here is the MCPS document stating that more "

Here is the MCPS document clearly showing that certain middle schools have a lot of highly qualified students:
Cabin John, Frost, Hoover, Pyle, Silver Spring International and Sligo.

We know that on average just over 3 students from each CES were accepted into Takoma or Eastern
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/schools/msmagnet/about/Summary%20of%20the%20Middle%20School%20Magnet%20Data.pdf

We have anecdotal evidence (from DCUM posters) that some CESs only had a couple of students accepted into the middle school magnets.  Students at CESs at schools such as Cold Spring ES and Pine Crest seem to have been at a real disadvantage, presumably because of the geographical/ peer cohort criteria.

Worth noting that the same MCPS document also shows that nearly every middle school has enough highly qualified students to have a full class of gifted math and gifted social studies so highly gifted students in these middle schools would presumably have a peer group in their home middle school.

Another MCPS document which notes that this year's magnet class is different in a notable way:
"Has the program itself changed as a result of the new screening process for the Science, math, computer science program?

We still have many top math students in our new sixth grade class, and [b]we are seeing a greater diversity in ability.[/b] This is an important opportunity for highly able students to be able to step up into a more rigorous curriculum. What has changed is not the rigor of the program or our expectations of students. [b]What has changed is instruction and what the teachers need to do[/b]. Our teachers are expected to provide supports and scaffolding to help all magnet students attain the level of mastery of students working at a high level in mathematics"

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/curriculum/specialprograms/middle/Grade%205%20Parent%20FAQ's%20.pdf

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The problem with this theory is the CES kids were those selected by their parents to attend these programs from back in the day whereas the new magnet selection process uses universal screening which made things a lot more competitive. I strongly suspect the kids with the highest scores got in and they aren't the same ones whose parents nominated them for the gifted program.[/quote]

Let's be honest; if the average scores at the centers had stayed the same or gone up MCPS would have released that data to much fanfare.  The fact is that for the first time they didn't release this information.  Institutions like MCPS don't hide good news.[/quote]

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