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[quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous]They are opposed to privately property, specifically privately owned corporate property.  Here are their own words:
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I suggest that you enroll in a remedial reading class because you obviously suffer from an inability to comprehend simple English. None of those quotes rule out private property altogether. Again, have you ever been to Western Europe? Have you even read a good book about the region? There is no lack of private property in any of those countries. What the DSA does support is the elimination of corporate control of those industries necessary to ensure the basic functions of living. Why should healthcare be operated according to capitalist principles? If I developed the cure for cancer, would you rather that I price it where I could achieve the highest marginal rate of return or at the lowest price possible to reach the largest number of cancer patients? Capitalists believe the former even though it makes medicine unaffordable to many. Socialists put people before profits.

Ironically, Trump has just been tweeting about how he is telling pharmaceutical companies to lower their prices. Are you attacking Trump for his socialist actions?

College educations these days leave graduates with decades worth of debt that prevent many from being able to save for a home purchase which in turns causes many to delay marriage and families. Capitalists are just fine with this reality, while socialists believe that an educated society is a better society and education should be made affordable.

Go ahead and argue that only the wealthy should have access to healthcare and education and see what happens to your electoral fortunes. [/quote]
DP, and I'll take you on.

I want to focus specifically on the socialistic idea, which you support, of the government (e.g., other people) providing college educations to Americans. Your reasoning is that otherwise, college graduates are left with decades of debt, which in turn has other negative consequences.

I, on the other hand, know that there are alternatives to heavy college debt that do not involve a new entitlement program,- or OPM. There are a multitude of paths by which a resourceful, motivated student can obtain an affordable education. Following are some possibilities:

1) Attend community college for the first two years, and cut total costs almost in half
2) Do well in community college and earn an academic transfer scholarship
3) Explore all sorts of scholarships, available for every group/interest under the sun. This too can cut the bill in half.
4) Get federal grants
5) Get state grants
6) Take advantage of a co-OP education program, which alternates "work semesters" with ".classroom semesters" - and graduate after five or six years with little to no debt
7) Explore tuition-free schools (yes, they exist, although very competitive)
8) Cut the time in college by taking exams for "credit" (of material one has already mastered)
9) Get a job with an employer with tuition reimbursement
10) Get a FT job with the univeristy you want to attend, as you can often take free classes on a part-time basis

I could go on, but you get the idea. There is much a student can do to make college affordable. Even if the above doesn't eliminate all debt, it reduces it to a manageable level. The point is that the answer doesn't have to be "have the government pay for college."

(Full disclosure: I've had an extensive background in higher education funding.)
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My son just graduated from high school and will enter college this Fall. So, funding college has been much on our minds recently. We are doing many of the things on your list. Certainly individual students can do the things you list, but I can't imagine that even you believe these things will solve the problem for every prospective college student. There are limits to everything you listed, especially federal and state grants which you may as well not bother listing for most students.

Just like healthcare, every major Western democracy has figured out how to provide affordable college. Americans like to view themselves as exceptional, but we are exceptionally unable to do things that other countries are able to do. Just how long are we going to put up with this situation?[/quote]

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