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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Check out this chart to see exactly how this effect plays out in admissions to medical schools. [img]http://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/medschool.jpg[/img] Article discussing it is here: [url]http://www.aei.org/publication/acceptance-rates-at-us-medical-schools-in-2015-reveal-ongoing-discrimination-against-asian-americans-and-whites/[/url][/quote] You seem to believe this chart demonstrates a problem But it's important that we have doctors from different backgrounds/experiences, because it absolutely affects their practice of medicine and their ability to connect with patients. Men on average have higher MCAT scores than women--should they get preference in med school admissions? Isn't it important that we have female doctors as well as male ones? There is so much that goes into being a good doctor that is not about achievement scores. You need some baseline level of intelligence to be a good doctor, but beyond that baseline, being a good doctor is about so much more than test scores or even innate intelligence--perhaps especially in the primary care specialties, where we have a shortage of providers. In fact, as discussed in the piece below, personality tests are more highly correlated with medical school success than are measures of cognition. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/15/health/14chen.html High performance on multiple choice tests is not what makes someone a good doctor.[/quote] So someone having dark pigmentation in their skin helps you determine that he or she has these other important, non-score-related traits?[/quote] No, but recommendations, volunteer work and extracurriculars, and interviews might. [/quote] Am I to believe that there is such a high concentration of these other good traits among Hispanics and Blacks compared to Whites and Asians that they get accepted into medical school at 5-10x the rate with similar college grades and MCAT scores?[/quote] The AEI article takes data from the American Association of Medical Colleges and reformats it in the most inflammatory way possible, and then leaves off some pretty critical information. The original data from the American Association of Medical Colleges can be found here: https://www.aamc.org/download/321498/data/factstablea18.pdf And specifically, if you look at this table, some crucial facts can be gleaned: https://www.aamc.org/download/321498/data/factstablea18.pdf The average total MCAT score of applicants: All applicants--501.8 White--504.0 Asian--503.1 Hispanic--496.2 Black--494.1 IOW, the average black applicant had an MCAT score that was 2 percent lower than the average white applicant. Not exactly scandalous. What is also shown in this table (conveniently omitted from the AEI piece), is the racial make-up of the total applicant pool and the total matriculant pool: All applicants--53,042 White--25,544 (48%) Asian--10,906 (21%) Hispanic--3,300 (6%) Black--4,344 (8%) Mixed race/ethnicity--4,734 (9%) All matriculants--21,030 White--10,828 (51%) Asian--4,475 (21%) Hispanic--1,335 (6%) Black--1,497 (7%) Mixed race/ethnicity--1,858 (9%) So admission rates (matriculants divided by applicants) are: White--42% Asian--41% Hispanic--40% Black--34% Mixed race/ethnicity--39% And the average total MCAT scores of matriculants are: White--510.1 Asian--510.5 Hispanic--503.0 Black--502.5 Mixed race/ethnicity--508.1 In 2016-2017, the average black matriculant had a total MCAT score that was [b]1.5 percent lower[/b] than the average white matriculant. Happy to be corrected if my math or reading of the AAMC's data is off.[/quote]
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